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[Ernesto]

manager und trainer der roma

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[lorenzo]

hier ein artikel vom wall street journal über zdenek zeman - roma trainer - the soccer maverick.

sehr interessant:

The Return of Soccer's Jedi

Zeman Earns Another Shot at the Big Time; Inside the Mind of a Maverick

A little over two years ago, Zdenek Zeman sat at an outdoor table at a bar in a residential Rome neighborhood and did something he's probably done tens of millions of times in his life. He took a long, hard drag of his cigarette and stared right through the person to whom he was talking.

"Do you enjoy watching soccer?" he asked in a low monotone.

Another drag, followed by the kind of pause that made you think he was done talking. But then he started again.

"I rarely do anymore," he said. "I still watch because I can't help it. I'm addicted... but it's not the same." Another drag. "It's not my world anymore."

Very soon—probably this week, according to both Zeman and club sources—Zeman will be back coaching in the big time at Roma. Eleven seasons will have passed since the last time he was at a major club in a major league. They were 11 years in which soccer fans were denied the sight of one of the most original, innovative and maverick minds in the history of the game breaking taboos, defying convention and, above all, entertaining.

"We did say we wanted to play an attractive style. Well, [Zeman] fits that, right?" said Franco Baldini, Roma's general director.

He certainly does. Zeman's philosophy is predicated on a high-energy 4-3-3 system that's unlike anything you're bound to see today, mainly because it is played at a breakneck pace with wave after wave of attackers streaming forward.

Zeman illustrated his vision a few years ago: "Whenever we attack, all three forwards have to be in the penalty area while two of the three midfielders come forward as well. That way the opponent is pinned back. Then you put the ball in the box, and because you have more men, you have more chances of scoring. It's not rocket science. It's simple math."

Of course, put like that, it's simple to the point of suicidal. But the simplicity hides a complexity based on two things: fitness and movement. Zeman's teams play at a higher pace than their opponents, mainly because they train harder and longer. And they play with a stunning synchronicity of movement. Players don't pass to teammates; they pass to where they know their teammates will be, because they're always on the move.

Zeman's critics say he wears players out, an accusation he disputes. "My training sessions may be long, repetitive and intense, but they're fun," he said. "And when you're having fun, you don't get tired. Have you ever seen little kids running around all day long? Do they get tired?"

Everything about Zeman is unconventional. He's both bohemian and Bohemian. Born in Prague in 1947, he moved to Italy—where his uncle, Cestmir Vycpalek, was a soccer coach—shortly after Russian tanks rolled in back in 1968. Armed with a degree in sports medicine and little else—he had given up playing organized soccer at the age of 16, though he was a competitive handball player—he began coaching amateur teams in dusty Sicilian backwaters.

Thus began an incredible ascent through Italian soccer's food chain that saw him reach Serie A in 1991. He stuck around in the top flight for seven seasons, first at Foggia, then at Lazio and Roma, winning plaudits for his exciting run-and-gun style. In the traditionally conservative world of Italian soccer, he also annoyed the fundamentalists for being a little too iconoclastic. This applied both to his playing philosophy and to some of his public statements, like when he suggested some clubs misused prescription drugs to gain an edge on the pitch, or when he talked about the game's "old-boy network" of favors and back-scratching.

By the turn of the millennium, Zeman had developed a reputation as someone who was more trouble than he was worth: a bright coach, but one who was so fixated with certain ideas that he took unnecessary risks. He was also seen as a loose cannon whose frequent barbs were no less dangerous because they were delivered in his trademark deliberate, slow staccato.

Zeman seemingly became persona non grata in the game's higher echelons. He bounced around smaller clubs with even smaller budgets, never staying more than a season. Last summer, he took over Pescara in Italy's second tier, and the magic returned. The club won Serie B and was promoted back to the big time. And Zeman was offered the Roma gig. All of a sudden, it's the mid-1990s again.

Zeman, who turned 65 last month, admits this is probably his "last chance at a top club." Roma, of course, is also rolling the dice. Since a U.S.-based consortium acquired a controlling share in the club in April 2011, the emphasis has been on entertainment and long-term growth. The new owners appointed Luis Enrique, a former Barcelona reserve-team coach, in the hope of replicating its model. It only worked to a point, and he resigned at the end of the season, citing stress and burnout.

Zeman is an equally bold move. The fear is that this will end up like Zeman-coached teams of the past: pretty soccer, plenty of entertainment and a great big goose egg when it comes to results.

"But playing for results is not the same as playing soccer—my teams play soccer," he said in 2009. "The way some so-called winning teams play today, it's all about the players. The managers just focus on not conceding and leave everything up to the players. Guys like [Fabio] Capello and [Jose] Mourinho are hailed as geniuses because they win. Well, they win because they have the best players, not because of what they do. I could put my dead grandfather in charge of their teams and they would still win."

Whatever happens—as always when Zeman is involved—it won't be dull.

http://online.wsj.co...1592390248.html

bearbeitet 16. Juli 2012 von lorenzo

[filippinho]

sehr sympathisch von den italienern, dass sie ihren fans solche infos über uns zukommen lassen.

sowas ausführliches hätt ich auf unserer offiziellen noch nie gelesen. (zumindest nicht über einen testspielgegner)

Bei den Italienern überrascht mich das gar nicht, dort nimmt man den Fussball ein bißchen ernster als bei uns.

[RapidWien95]

manager und trainer der roma

Der Raucher - die X-Akte lässt grüßen.

[BeniaminQuiel-Brown]

If you wanna see the match online you can on http://fotbal.transilvanialook.ro, gratis. You will have the mach in archive, too, for those who want to see it other day. Enjoy! See this, too: http://www.portaltv.ro, http://ro-tv.ucoz.ro...ania_look/0-380

bearbeitet 16. Juli 2012 von BeniaminQuiel-Brown

[RapidWien95]

Bei den Italienern überrascht mich das gar nicht, dort nimmt man den Fussball ein bißchen ernster als bei uns.

Vor allem zeugt es auch von Respekt, auch kleineren Vereinen gegenüber. Leider nicht alltäglich. Wo gibts das sonst noch?

Okay, ausser im ASB natürlich mit Dannyos legen - warte,es kommt gleich - dären Infos über so manch unbekannten Quali-Gegner.

[Lorbeer]

danke an die roma fans das sie uns da mit infos füttern

Da kann man sich nur anschließen. Als jemand, der sich mit elf Jahren im Italien-Urlaub ein Roma-Dress gekauft hat, weiß man das natürlich gleich noch viel mehr zu schätzen!

[Spechtl]

Meine Weste (S, die seit 10 Jahren im Schrank hängt) von AS Roma passt mir komischerweise nicht mehr.

[asrom]

http://www.asroma.it/it/notizie/notizie.html?id=5880

http://www.asroma.it/en/news/news.html?id=5880

Heute gabs übrigens erstmals ordentliches Taktiktraining in unserem Trainingslager, offenbar will Zeman doch auf Nummer sicher gehen dass unsere Leute da morgen nicht komplett planlos herumirren Morgen wird um 09:30 nochmal trainiert und dann gehts direkt ab nach Wien (Ich persönlich hoffe, sie fliegen von Innsbruck nach Wien. Nach ein paar Stunden Busfahrt hat noch niemand gut Fußball gespielt).

[Anti__Violett]

Bin auch schon sehr gespannt welche Aufstellung wir sehen werden!

Mein Tipp:

Königshofer

...

Wohl eher nicht.

[scrforever123]

Wohl eher nicht.

y not?

[GRENDEL]

Wohl eher nicht.

Denke schon... Payer wird nicht das ganze Spiel kriegen.

[Burschi]

payer wird 24 minuten spielen, von beginn an.

Quelle: ich glaub krone, bin noch nicht ganz wach

[13Dezember]

payer wird 24 minuten spielen, von beginn an.

Quelle: ich glaub krone, bin noch nicht ganz wach

bestätigt!

[flanders]

lieber wär ma 2 min 40 sek gewesen aber payer hat sich heute einen schönen abschied von rapid verdient. er war doch sehr lange da und bei einem testspiel passt das schon so.

bearbeitet 17. Juli 2012 von flanders