Zwischenfälle in Saloniki

[Indurus]

yes we are going to get punished ... but you also ...thats the truth

Yes, but the severeness of the punishments will be totally different. We will have to pay and you will get banned.

[Ernesto]

ich wäre weder beleidigt noch sonst irgendwas, du sagten man soll es ihnen ruhig zeigen und zum lesen geben, selbs so nen Schwachsinn möchte ich niemanden zumuten, zumal dies maybe ein Fake ist, jedoch in Wahrheit genügend Leute so denken... das es ein Fake ist, merkt man schon an den Eisern Wien Erwähungen..., nie in eine, öffentlichem Forum!!

es karikiert den wahnsinn und daher hats durchaus berechtigung. trotzdem verstehe ich nicht warum du mich gleich halb aggressiv fragst in welcher welt ich lebe. ist das wieder so eine "ich schieb dich in eine gutmenschen/blauaugen - schubladen" aktion, die in letzter zeit so gerne getätigt wird oder wie soll ich das verstehen?

[onlinehv]

@toumpa - you've read the lines of noxus? Is it ok for you? And you're wondering about some small rockets?? We can be glad that nobody died yesterday!

I Never will See Paok again in European Football, till you have solved your internal problems

[Lucifer]

es karikiert den wahnsinn und daher hats durchaus berechtigung. trotzdem verstehe ich nicht warum du mich gleich halb aggressiv fragst in welcher welt ich lebe. ist das wieder so eine "ich schieb dich in eine gutmenschen/blauaugen - schubladen" aktion, die in letzter zeit so gerne getätigt wird oder wie soll ich das verstehen?

nein keines Falls, mir ging nur dieses wie soll ich sagen, mögliche aufzeigen von Hirnlosigkeit am Senkel, als würden wir nicht wissen welch Pack uns umgibt. Gutmenschen, ach diese Diskussion ist sinnlos, ja ich bin da zwiegespalten aber jeder hat seine Meinung!

[Toumpa]

First of all, i like the greece mentaility, a friend of mine lives obout 100km away from Thessaloniki, and we always celebrate our meetings for over ten years now,

for me your mentality is the perfect way to enjoy life for the full, and maybe you´re right both teams should be eliminated, but i can only say, i like soccer, i lover soccer and such ocurrances are beneath notice, but the great sadness ist that soccer is the most popular platform for such idiot´s and these guy´s aren´t intrested in soccer...only in playing war....

I agree with you ...We PAOK fans succeded many years to protect the stadium from Invasion of such idiots ..unfortunatly yesterday its was not that way.... I dont think though thats its fair to eliminate a soccer team , soccer is life fo us here and unfortunatly its one of the only things left here in Greece from which people could get some joy ...its hard for people in Austria to understand what we are going through here ....the RIOTS yestarday have a little bit political backround too ...people are having lots of temper lately and i say it AGAIN 90% of paok fans yesterday DID NOT Know THAT 100 IDIOTS ATTACKED YOUR BUSSES ! so seeing Families getting attacked and shooted with Flares and rockets ...made them CRAZY ! The police was just watching ...unacceptable

[max092]

unsere leute haben sich vor allem über die unfähige security aufgeregt.

Mein Beispiel war auch an eurer Partie gegen legia aufgehängt, weil ich die Fan beauftragten die mit waren bestens kenne

[samfisher77]

der bericht auf orf war wieder mal für die fisch

[Lucifer]

bravo warum wundert man sich das gespielt wurde..., das ist doch lächerlich!!!

[k3nny]

der bericht auf orf war wieder mal für die fisch

+1

[Toumpa]

no one of us doubts that, but the question is how severe the punishments for every club will be?

most of us are expecting a huge fine(probably more than 100.000€), but we cannot believe that we could get any more punishments.

what about you? are you and your club expecting a severe punishment? do you fear being banned from the competition?

by the way: thanks for sharing your opinion here, most of us appreciate it

Hello Friend , thank you too for letting me here sharing my opinion with you

We are also waiting with our breath hold what kind of punishment we are going to get

We are expecting huge cash fine and maybe a Ghostgame

But no overall ban from UEFA , i think this is not possible since the game started an ended NORMALLY without problem , the referee stated a warning that he will stop the game if even one flare would fall again ..

The fact that the UEFA supervisor also stated that " i saw what happened and that the riots began from the RApid fans " is something that could enlighten the punishment ....

The fact is for shure that nor the WIEN city nor the UEFA would want PAOK fans to travel to WIEN after all this ...and specially when rumors say that PARTIZAN fans are going to join 99% this Trip ....

[rapidforever]

Gerade Bericht auf ORF 2. Nach den Schilderungen eben verstehe ich noch weniger, warum Schöttel antreten hat lassen. Er hat ja gesagt, dass er es für gefährlich gehalten hat und das überlegt hat -> Argument, warum er dann trotz der für ihn gefährlichen Situation spielen hat lassen hat es aber nicht gegeben. Ob man da bei Rapid zu "gütig" ist? Nach manchen Aktionen muss man einfach mal (auch dem Sport zuliebe) in Kauf nehmen, dass ein Spiel eben nicht sportlich ausgetragen werden kann und das Antreten verweigern.

AUßER es wurde tatsächlich von den Verantwortlichen so gewünscht, um weitere Eskalationen zu vermeiden. Aber wie gesagt, in dem Fall muss es sofort eine Sperre von PAOK geben.

[SCR-4-EvEr]

I agree with you ...We PAOK fans succeded many years to protect the stadium from Invasion of such idiots ..unfortunatly yesterday its was not that way.... I dont think though thats its fair to eliminate a soccer team , soccer is life fo us here and unfortunatly its one of the only things left here in Greece from which people could get some joy ...its hard for people in Austria to understand what we are going through here ....the RIOTS yestarday have a little bit political backround too ...people are having lots of temper lately and i say it AGAIN 90% of paok fans yesterday DID NOT Know THAT 100 IDIOTS ATTACKED YOUR BUSSES ! so seeing Families getting attacked and shooted with Flares and rockets ...made them CRAZY ! The police was just watching ...unacceptable

rapid vs besiktas. besiktas wirft bengalen auf den darunter gelegenen rapid-sektor mit familien und kindern. reaktion vom rapid-fansektor? laute pfiffe, sonst nichts. also bitte erzähl niemandem, dass es normal ist, dass man quer über das spielfeld läuft und mit zangen, flaschen, molotow-cocktails und bengalen den gegnerischen fansektor zu stürmen versucht.

[Toumpa]

@toumpa - you've read the lines of noxus? Is it ok for you? And you're wondering about some small rockets?? We can be glad that nobody died yesterday!

I Never will See Paok again in European Football, till you have solved your internal problems

Yes i have read them ....

This is how things happen but ...NOXUS himself wrote that the RAPID fans did HUGE mistakes ....shouting Panathinaikos chants ...throwing rockets etc etc ... i know that what we did is unacceptable but i wrote about it before ....PAOK fans are famous for this things and you are going and provoke them into doing it....combined with lack of police force and wrong HANDLING of them ....yes you are right we are lucky that nothing worse happened ....

[el-capitane]

Kann mir sehr gut vorstellen das nur angepfiffen worden ist weil sonst die ganze sache komplett aus dem ruder gelaufen wäre, die wären doch komplett durchgedreht wenn der stadionsprecher durchgesagt hätte es findet kein spiel statt, die hätten doch genau gewusst das paok jetzt ausgeschlossen wird also was hätten die griechen noch zu verlieren gehabt, noch dazu war viel zu wenig polizei im einsatzt das hätte die katastrophe schlecht hin gegeben.

[onlinehv]

Hello Friend , thank you too for letting me here sharing my opinion with you

We are also waiting with our breath hold what kind of punishment we are going to get

We are expecting huge cash fine and maybe a Ghostgame

But no overall ban from UEFA , i think this is not possible since the game started an ended NORMALLY without problem , the referee stated a warning that he will stop the game if even one flare would fall again ..

The fact that the UEFA supervisor also stated that " i saw what happened and that the riots began from the RApid fans " is something that could enlighten the punishment ....

The fact is for shure that nor the WIEN city nor the UEFA would want PAOK fans to travel to WIEN after all this ...and specially when rumors say that PARTIZAN fans are going to join 99% this Trip ....

we will see what happens but don't threaten with Partizan-fans

And i hope you understand now that it was mainly the fault of your fans, what happend yesterday

bearbeitet 24. August 2012 von onlinehv