Real Madrid Club de Fútbol

[Maulinho]

Ronaldo wird nach wie vor nicht wieder fit und ist nach Holland zu einem Knöchel-Spezialisten gereist. Auch der Clásico ist ziemlich fraglich.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/no...do-ankle-injury

[lamasia]

Trotzdem will der port. Verband und der Nationaltrainer Ronaldo für die Playoffspiele einberufen...

Da bahnt sich ein neuer Zwist zwischen den Blancos und der port. Nationalelf an...

[H.B.K]

real befindet sich wieder in aufwärtsform, auch ohne ronaldo konnte gegen atletico gewonnen werden.

nach einer 3:0 führung durch tore von kaka, marcelo und higuain bekam ramos in der 66 rot und atletico kam noch auf 3:2 ran.

[revo]

Ronaldo wurde übrigens in den Kader Portugals einberufen.

[revo]

Communication Breakdown ...

Pellegrini no sabía que Ramos podía jugar

Sergio Ramos fue uno de los ausentes en el partido del Bernabéu ante el Alcorcón. El defensa merengue fue expulsado en el derbi y debía cumplir la correspondiente sanción en el partido de la Copa. O al menos eso pensaba Pellegrini.

Resulta que la Real Federación Española de Fútbol siempre envía una circular a los clubes para avisarles que, en caso de ser festivo, el Comité de Competición no se reunirá ese día. Era el caso de este lunes, día de la Almudena y fiesta en la capital.

Por lo tanto, y ante el aplazamiento de la reunión del Comité, la sanción de Ramos no era oficial y el jugador del Madrid podía estar en el compromiso copero.

No se enteró o no le informaron a Pellegrini, que aseguró en la rueda de prensa posterior al partido no tener "constancia" de este hecho: "No convoqué a Ramos porque cumplía ciclo en la Copa del Rey. No tenía constancia de lo contrario. No me llegó la información".

Sin embargo, fuentes del club consultadas por MARCA aseguraban que Valdano le comunicó a las dos de la tarde del martes que podía contar con Ramos si quería y que finalmente el técnico decidió darle descanso.

El caso es que Ramos al final no fue convocado porque supuestamente estaba sancionado y ahora todo apunta a que el defensa merengue se perderá el próximo choque de Liga ante el Racing.

http://www.marca.com/2009/11/10/futbol/cop...mp;t=1257932038

Ramos stand nicht im Kader im Cup, da er im Derby ausgeschlossen wurde. Daher nahm Pellegrini an, dass er nicht spielen durfte. Da der Montag in Madrid jedoch ein Feiertag war fand keine Sitzung des "Comité de Competición" statt und Ramos Sperre war daher nicht offiziell und er hätte eingesetzt werden können. Daher wird er nun wohl gegen Racing offiziell gesperrt sein. Informanten von Marca sollen jedoch wissen, dass Valdano darüber sehr wohl informiert hatte.

[m1chael]

Traurig - gegen eine solche Mannschaft auszuscheiden ...

Das hätte auch die B oder C Elf von Real Madrid schaffen MÜSSEN!

Hoffe sie können sich jetzt mit Siege gegen Barcelona, Zürich, etc. bei den Fans entschuldigen!

[MILANISTA]

Spanish Inquisition: The Curse Of The Bernabeu - How Fans Make Real Madrid's Bad Situation Worse

Goal.com's Sulmaan Ahmad takes a look at why Los Blancos rarely feel at home in their super stadium and why their own fans make their lives more difficult.

All great clubs throughout football history have one thing in common: a historically epic and imposing stadium.

Size, as is so often the case, has been made into one of the first barometers of a club's stature, success and support. Outside of auto-racing arenas, not many may know that the Rungrado May Day Stadium in North Korea is actually the world's largest - by far - at a seating capacity of 150,000.

India's Salt Lake Stadium checks in next at 120,000, while Mexico's Azteca, at just over 105,000, in fact holds the honour of being the largest football-only stadium in the world.

It's even ahead of the big one, which comes next at 98,772: Camp Nou. Barcelona's fortress is known in modern times as the most imposing place to go to try and get a result in all the football world.

Following not soon after are their perhaps more illustrious but currently far more envious rivals, Real Madrid, with the Santiago Bernabeu stadium's capacity weighing in at just over 80,000.

The Clasico rivals are separated only by Wembley Stadium - the original home of football, though recently reconstructed and yet to conjure up a sincere 'magic' factor - and the complete opposite: the incredible Maracana in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

Though downsized in the name of health and safety, this amazing stadium holds the record for the highest ever attendance of a sporting event, when an incredible 199,854 of the paying public crammed their way in to watch the final game of the 1950 World Cup, when Brazil were to end up losing to Uruguay.

Though the Bernabeu is in very illustrious company - in 2007, after the most recent, magnificent redevelopments, it was named one of UEFA's Elite stadiums - and though it is still revered by all visitors from Steven Gerrard to Alexandre Pato, it's almost as if such humility and respect for this great and historical stadium is put on for little reason beyond a supposed obligation.

Surely, if Madrid are the most successful club of all-time, and have - to themselves, at least - the second biggest football stadium of all time, then this must be a difficult place to go to try and get a result.

Not really.

Now, disparaging comments towards Madrid have become all the rage: people fear what they don't understand, and Florentino Perez's bottomless sack of money has mystified more than a few of football's leading figures over the past few months.

But in truth, it's little more than a highly successful club with a highly successful businessman taking highly risky financial gambles, which despite not resting solely on success in all things style and silverware, will be measured that way by the majority of the fans.

So there needn't be reason to make Madrid into an enemy more so than any other club, but being the universal enemy as they have turned out to be anyway, the club and the players, without doubt, would have at least hoped to have drawn on support from... their own supporters.

The booing of home players by home fans has been a hot topic across many different clubs and countries for a lot longer than this season so far, but it is here and now at Madrid where it is most highlighted and arguably most damaging, at least on the elite stage.

Shortcomings within the team - like any other - are apparent, and perhaps come as an underwhelming surprise to those who, rightly or wrongly, expected all the financial outlay to result in faster gelling than your average Galacticos (should there be such a thing).

But the reaction has been most unhelpful and shortsighted. Madrid remain just a point off the top of La Liga and in truth, Barcelona were fortunate to scrape that single point that separates the two, when they went to Mestalla and drew with Valencia. Madrid are even outperforming Barcelona in the Champions League.

So in the race between these two titanic clubs competing for stadiums, stars and silverware, so far, not so bad from the capital's chasing pack. Yet for all the weakness they have shown so far this season, there has been one particularly common theme. And it's not a bad defence (while it may not be a particularly good defence either, Chelsea and Inter are two of the only sides across Europe who could claim to have been undisputedly better at the back, both on paper and in practice so far this season).

Against Milan in the Champions League at the Bernabeu, Madrid were in firm control of proceedings until they were stunned by a long-range strike from Andrea Pirlo that caught off-guard a usually unflappable Iker Casillas. The Spain No.1 inexplicably gifted Pato a second and Milan ended up with a 3-2 victory in the dying minutes of the game. The players could have done more for themselves, without question, but the fans' unease and impatience only sought to amplify their insecurities.

Then the opening minutes against Getafe in La Liga - a must-win game for coach Manuel Pellegrini at the time - were the most uncomfortable Madrid have looked at home all season to date. Though not looking in danger of conceding or losing, the players were jeered at their every mis-step and it was as though the fans were waiting for them to fail.

It took the ludicrous sending off of Raul Albiol to turn the fans' attention from their underperforming players to the questionable referee instead, and it was then when Madrid's performance improved ten-fold, and they went on to win the game, comfortably and in considerable style, with ten men.

And last night, as Madrid faced a tough and humiliating task of attempting to overturn third-tier side Alcorcon's 4-0 first leg advantage in the Copa del Rey, despite all the possession and all the chances, they managed just a one-goal victory, and their own fans began cheering Alcorcon possession and attack towards the end of the game.

Of course, there have been draws at Gijon and in Milan, and a loss at Sevilla as well - but in context, they were respectable results. In truth, beyond the freak defeat in Alcorcon, most of Madrid's unease has been made apparent on their own patch.

The very notion that the world's finest footballers need their hand held to perform is one which baffles most fans of the game, but illustrates that even the very best can't necessarily fight through all adversity.

The fans in Madrid nevertheless stand by their high-brow expectations. "The supporters of Real Madrid are fans of the spectacular," explains Juan, standing outside the Bernabeu. "They are almost more like afficionados of the theatre or the opera than they are fans of football.

"They are not like, for example, the majority of supporters in Great Britain, or even like those of Atletico Madrid, who are considered here in Spain to be the most animated of all fans. The supporters of Real Madrid like to go to the stadium, sit in their allocated seats and they wait to enjoy the show.

"But they are not there to get behind their team for 90 minutes, shouting and singing. No, the fans are those who understand football, but truly we sit there and we say, 'OK, now you entertain us.'

"I think the players who have come through the cantera of Madrid perfectly understand this mentality. It's a problem more for the foreign players who play in the team. Especially for players who come from countries or teams where they are used to having their fans get behind them and support them during matches."

Many of the snobbish stereotypes about continental fans en masse ring true from Juan's words. Even the Camp Nou crowd has been known to get impatient, and stadiums in Serie A first need to get themselves full before worrying about how supportive the attendees choose to be.

In England, Arsenal's new breed of fans, in a new stadium - perhaps products of the Wenger era - have to an extent been spoiled and come to expect certain standards, and have often faced criticism as the exception to the 'English rule' of always staying behind one's team.

Chelsea, despite their recent millions, remain in their old stadium and thus retain a lot of their old charm, rarely turning on or losing patience with their own players.

Manchester United's rise to global stardom resulted in the influx of the infamous 'prawn sandwich brigade', as then-captain Roy Keane gave his scathing assessment of the club's support turning for the worst. Old Trafford, for all its splendour, is something of a neutral venue that neither intimidates the opposition but - thankfully, it must be said - nor their own players.

It's Madrid's problem that's currently under the microscope. Mario, another Madridista, is a little more open to changing his ways. "Maybe we tend to boo and jeer more than we should," he admits.

He also thinks that the club's fans aren't quite as selfish as it would seem. "In truth, in the hour of need when things are going badly or when it's all falling down as happened during last season, for example, we are the first to help.

"There are occassions when there is way too much negativity. But in general, it's a public which is very loyal and it's one that will never ever abandon the team."

Chema, a third fan, speaks directly and honestly about an issue close to all Madridistas' hearts. "Guti has had a lot of problems with the fans, because the fans want players who are completely committed both on and off the pitch," he says.

When we asked Xabi Alonso whether he was surprised or disappointed at all with the treatment the team are currently receiving from the (in)famous Madrid faithful, his answer was both honest and unconvincing at the same time. "I was not surprised, because I knew more or less the way it was with the fans here in Madrid," he said. "Of course, all the fans are different, all the stadiums are different, but I am happy with it."

It's hard to believe a player who has recently come from and is a great admirer of the supporters in Liverpool - where the fans are so loyal that it has gotten to the point they are facing criticism for 'saving' Rafa Benitez's job - would be happy with the state of affairs in Madrid. It is as though this great club full of great players is more intimidated than their opponents are, when stepping out onto their own backyard.

Perhaps it takes such an extreme to open eyes to the fact that players being made to feel uncomfortable in their own home does nobody any favours. As primitive and trivial as it may seem to engage in competitions to see which set of fans can make the most noise, it certainly works for Sevilla (perhaps the best atmosphere in Europe), and Madrid have double the attendance to play with.

The plummeting attendances and limited patience of fans in Italy has without question had a colossal effect on their recent fall from grace among Europe's heavyweights. Who's to say Madrid couldn't follow suit, in the long run?

Maybe there is genuine need for supporters - in the stadium, at least - to occasionally put aside their discerning taste and do all they can to help the team. Even if they are paying for the privilege. After all, they can either pay to watch them win, or pay to watch them lose.

Stoke City's supporters contributed so heavily towards their home form last season that they turned one of the poorer squads in the Premier League into a mid-table outfit. Of course, a Stoke atmosphere can't be recreated in Barcelona, let alone Madrid - as so much of it stems from their small standing as a club and city - but making the effort to at least get some of the way there could make the world of difference with far superior players.

Perhaps the most damning indictment that could force Madrid fans to change their ways is that, for as long as the atmosphere continues being so poor, and the results so inconsistent, no amount of stadium seats out front or trophies stowed away in the back will make the Santiago Bernabeu a truly great, impressive or fearful stadium. Nice architecture and fascinating history makes it little more than a glorified museum.

There is no need to mention the Bernabeu in its current state alongside Camp Nou or Anfield. It just being Real Madrid's stadium doesn't make it worthy. Visiting fans and teams will continue to enjoy themselves in anticipation of causing a supposedly historical upset, but in truth, it is becoming less and less of a remarkable achievement to win in, subdue or in any way embarrass Madrid in this spectacular stadium full of average support.

goal.com

[H.B.K]

naja, immerhin wird C.R langsam wieder fit.

ist auch was...... oder?

[lamasia]

CR wird gegen Santander weiter fehlen....

Angeblich hat Real nun ein konkretes Interesse an David Silva. 25 Mille stehen im Raum...

[Juvenal]

Platz 1

Jetzt sind sie dort, wo sie hingehören!

[memnoch999]

CR wird gegen Santander weiter fehlen....

Angeblich hat Real nun ein konkretes Interesse an David Silva. 25 Mille stehen im Raum...

Wo hast du das gelesen?

[lamasia]

Wo hast du das gelesen?

kann zwar kein spanisch, aber so hab ichs mir zusammengereimt...

http://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/...l-primer-equipo

muss aber nicht stimmen...

ist nur ein gerücht.

[Benzema11]

Pepe zum "Clasico": "Angst? Dieses Wort kennen wir nicht."

Auch Casillas meldet sich natürlich zu Wort: „Barça sehe ich im Rückspiegel!“

Ich finde es gut, dass die beiden hier selbstbewusst auftreten. Dieswird auch gegen Barca notwendig sein. Mit vollen Hosen, braucht man dasNou Camp erst garnicht betreten. Was meint ihr dazu?

bearbeitet 27. November 2009 von Benzema11

[Jordi]

Auch Casillas meldet sich natürlich zu Wort: „Barça sehe ich im Rückspiegel!“

bearbeitet 27. November 2009 von Jordi

[axl_]