Liverpool FC - "You'll never walk alone...!!!

[ShanklysSon]

Das Moore-Announcement ist so typisch FSG!

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/255263-peter-moore-to-be-appointed-lfc-s-chief-executive-officer

Spielt die Mannschaft schei*e, wird schnell für Ablenkung gesorgt, dass ja kein Gegenwind Richtung John W.Henry&Co bläst.

 

LAUGHING STOCK

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[GraveDigger]

Leider hat Kloppos - mittlerweile zugegebenerweise von vielen berechtigt unter Kritk stehende - Sturheit da heute auch wieder einen großen Teil zu beigetragen.

Keine Ahnung was Sakho wirklich alles gemacht hat (und wahrscheinlich werden wir es auch nie erfahren), aber wenn man sieht, was der aktuell auf dem Feld leistet, dann ist es einfach nur ein unglaublicher Witz, dass wir mit Lucas als IV beginnen. Selbst Klavan hätte ich da heute lieber gesehen; oder diese Variante mit Can in einer 3er Verteidigung von Halbzeit 2. Alles, aber nur nicht Lucas. So stark sehgeschwächt konnte man eigentlich gar nicht sein, dass einem nicht spätestens nach 10 Minuten klar war, dass Vardy genau darauf gewartet hat - endlich mal wieder ein direkter Gegenspieler gegen den er _jedes_ Laufduell gewinnt. Den er mit jedem Schritt aus der Position führen kann. 

Vorne leider ebenfalls wieder ein absoluter Totalausfall in Sachen Willen und Kreativität. Lallana mit einem ganz ganz fürchterlichen Spiel (hätte mir da heute nach der Vertragsverlängerung eigentlich wieder eine Leistungssteigerung erwartet), Wijnaldum wieder mit der "Form" von vor 4 Monaten, Mane wohl mit seinem schwächsten Spiel im LFC Trikot und Coutinho nachwievor gefühlt erst bei 60% (auch da hätte ich mir nach der langen Pause und dem Trainingslager viel mehr Frische und Dynamik erwartet). Firmino eine arme Sau ganz vorne, aber wenn angespielt zumeist auch mit untypischen Fehlern beim First Touch.

Zusammengefasst: Man ist wieder dort, wo man vor dem Tottenham Spiel war. Keine Ahnung, was mit der Mannschaft seit Dezember passiert ist. Kann ja nicht nur alles an der Coutinho Verletzung und dem dummen Afrika-Cup liegen. Grrrrr. Bitte, bitte zumindest vor United und Everton bleiben und nicht alles in den Sand setzen, was man sich zu Beginn der Saison so groß aufgebaut hat....

[Der Athletiker]

Da war ja einer ganz lustig 

[Marchtrenker84]

TIA schrieb vor 8 Stunden:

Bitte geh zum Arzt. So weit soll und darf es nicht kommen!

Na ja jetzt beginnt dann eh die Fastenzeit, wenn ich dann wieder trinken kann, neigt sich die Meisterschaft schon einem gnädigen Ende entgegen und wir dürfen wieder für ein paar Monate träumen..

[Marchtrenker84]

Das mit Lucas versteh ich auch nicht, der würde ja selbst in unserer Operettenliga das eine oder andere Mal schlecht ausschaun. Vertraue drauf, dass Kloppo Infos hat, die wir nicht haben, und es die bestmögliche Aufstellung war...

[Wittgenstein]

In den sozialen Medien können die Lurche halt schon viel zu schnell und öffentlichkeitswirksam ihren Scheiß verzapfen. Wenn ich da lese, dass der Hashtag #KloppOut bereits die Runde macht, dann ist das einfach nur ärgerlich.

[Marchtrenker84]

Natürlich ist es (derzeit noch)lächerlich. Trotz allem hab ich aber das Gefühl, dass Klopp im Herbst, wenn das so weiter geht, rasch am heißen Stuhl sitzen wird. Da wir uns momentan eher rúckwärts entwickeln. Vermute, dass es wohl drauf ankommen wird, ob im Sommer einige gute Transfers gelingen. Spielen wir nicht in der CL, was leider auch zu vermuten ist, wird das schwer machbar sein. Mit dem jetzigen Team ist eine konstant gute Saison anscheinend nicht drinnen. Ein Teufelskreis..

Marchtrenker84 schrieb Gerade eben:

Natürlich ist es (derzeit noch)lächerlich. Trotz allem hab ich aber das Gefühl, dass Klopp im Herbst, wenn das so weiter geht, rasch am heißen Stuhl sitzen wird. Da wir uns momentan eher rúckwärts entwickeln. Vermute, dass es wohl drauf ankommen wird, ob im Sommer einige gute Transfers gelingen. Spielen wir nicht in der CL, was leider auch zu vermuten ist, wird das schwer machbar sein. Mit dem jetzigen Team ist eine konstant gute Saison anscheinend nicht drinnen. Ein Teufelskreis..Wenn es Klopp bei uns nicht schafft, wer dann? Das macht mir offen gestanden etwas Angst

 

[goleador2000]

Ein Beitrag vom Kicker zur Niederlage gegen Leicester:

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/intligen/startseite/672161/artikel_klopp-bedient_selbst-auf-deutsch-schwer-erklaerbar.html#omfbLikePost

 

[Anti_Violett]

Liverpool FC 1892 schrieb vor einer Stunde:

Ohne Champions League kommen keine richtig guten Spieler, das ist leider die Wahrheit, da nützt auch eine glorreiche Vergangenheit nichts.

Dieser Kader reicht nicht für das was wir Vorhaben, es fehlt in der Breite.

Ah, deswegen sind letzte Saison Ibra und Pogba zu United gewechselt, oder?

[Marchtrenker84]

Anti_Violett schrieb vor 45 Minuten:

Ah, deswegen sind letzte Saison Ibra und Pogba zu United gewechselt, oder?

Na ja das ist Punkt 2 - wir haben auch keinen Eigentümer dem Geld wurscht ist

[goleador2000]

goleador2000 schrieb vor 23 Stunden:

Mit Hendo fehlte ein Antreiber und Leader. Bezeichnend, daß wir wieder mal ohne ihn ein Spiel verlieren und so einen blutleeren Auftritt abliefern.

- Liverpool with Jordan Henderson: Win: 61.5%
- Liverpool without Jordan Henderson: Win: 33.3%

[Anti_Violett]

Liverpool FC 1892 schrieb vor 8 Stunden:

Hast du die absurde Ablösesumme vergessen und die überzogenen Gehälter?

Ach ja und Ibra ist nicht mehr der Jüngste.

Generell finde ich den Weg den Klopp geht sehr vernünftig. Es werden nur Transfers getätigt die auch Sinn machen und man schmeißt nicht mit Geld um sich was ich sehr befürworte. Aber von der Bank kommt wenig vernünftiges, ausser natürlich hochtalentierte Talente, deren Einsatz ich auch befürworte. Ein bisschen mehr Breite im Kader in puncto Qualität ist meiner Meinung nach nötig.

Die Aufstellung macht sich von selber, nur einzelne müssen um ihren Stammplatz kämpfen, die Stammspieler haben wenig zu befürchten und da liegt meiner Meinung nach das Problem. Ich kann mir nur so den Freundschaftsspiel Modus gegen Leicester erklären.

 

Das passt ja, aber das macht dein genanntes Argument trotzdem obsolet. Nur an der Nichteilnahme an der CL liegt's eben mal nicht...

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[goleador2000]

Unter Klopps Management gab es bisher 20 verschiedene centre back-Paarungen beim LFC:

Auch interessant. Die Nacht von Istanbul. Stevie hatte offensichtlich grossen Einfluss auf die Mannschaft bzw. Wiederauferstehung in der 2. Halbzeit:

Zitat

 

Djibril Cissé on Gerrard's impact in Istanbul:

“He was talking to us, trying to make us feel like we could give our best.

“I think he will be a great manager. It’s in his DNA. I don’t know if that’s what he wants to do, but he’s at the academy and it’s a great start for him and I see him as a manager.

“At half time, Rafa did a speech. He tried to boost and tried to put us back in the game. He was really optimistic. But what really changed the game was Stevie’s speech.

“He asked nicely to the staff to be alone with the players and he said that he is a Liverpool kid, always been his club, he didn’t want to see his club being like this, being humiliated and he said if we scored in the first 15 minutes we would win the game and he’s the guy who scored the first goal.

“He gave the best captain’s speech I ever heard in my career. He asked everyone to leave, including Rafa, he just asked to be with the players. That’s what gave us the power to go and win the game. You need to have some balls to do this.”

“It was the most incredible night of my career. I wish and really I hope a lot of players will experience what we lived through that night. But I know it’s one of a kind, only us. It was really, really special." 

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[goleador2000]

 

Zitat

Dejan Lovren returned to the Melwood pitches on Thursday as Liverpool continued preparations for their weekend meeting with Arsenal.

The centre-back, who has missed the Reds' last three outings due to a knee problem, put himself in contention to face the Gunners as he joined his teammates for a session this afternoon.

Sehr schön. Ich hoffe er kann am Sa gegen die Gunners auflaufen. Wenn nicht haben wir auch noch Klavan und Gomez, der am Montag beim 1-0-Erfolg über West Brom erneut 90 Minuten für die U23 spielte und langsam durch Training u. Matchpraxis in der Reserve seine volle Fitness zurückbekommen bzw. eine Option für die PL werden sollte. Das Experiment mit Lucas in der IV ist nach der Horror-Show gegen Leicester hoffentlich endgültig beendet.

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[Ston3R]

Manninger! Ja, der spielt noch immer für uns. Wäre cool, wenn der vll im letzten Spiel der Saison mal randarf. Ich würds ihm gönnen

 

Behind the Badge: Manninger on Arsenal, Wenger and his LFC role

James Carroll @James_Carroll84

Alex Manninger's experiences of meetings between Liverpool and Arsenal as part of the away team at Anfield are largely painful.

 

“There were always big disappointments for us,” the goalkeeper remembers of the three times he was stationed between the sticks, which were marked by as many defeats and 10 goals conceded.

Fast forward 5,916 days from the final runout - a 4-0 loss in December 2000 - and Manninger will be on the other side of the fence when Arsenal visit Anfield this Saturday tea-time, having returned to the Premier League last summer to take up a role with the Reds at the age of 39.

“We never picked up anything at Anfield,” the ’keeper recalls during a conversation with Liverpoolfc.com at Melwood ahead of an afternoon training session. “There was always a big rivalry with Arsenal and Liverpool. I even remember the FA Cup game in Cardiff when we were winning until the 80-something minute and then Owen scored twice...

“Bad memories, but also good memories. It’s not that you think only bad if you lose... I remember I saved a penalty once at Anfield, but we conceded [each time].

“Playing here was exceptional. They were great days. Liverpool had great players and with all the story behind the club and all that stuff, it was always a great game. You looked forward to it, even a couple of weeks before you’d be thinking, ‘The big one is coming up soon…’ and that’s no different now when these teams meet.

“It will be nice to see people again. It was good on the opening day of the season to see some of the old Arsenal staff again - the manager, the kit men and the physios. I still know them and it’ll be nice to still know them after the game with the same result we had in London.”

Football fans of a certain vintage will recall Manninger was unknown when Arsene Wenger moved to bring him to English football back in 1997, tying up a deal with AK Graz to provide cover for David Seaman.

But the stopper, then boyish-faced and floppy-haired, shot to prominence in his debut season in the Premier League when an injury to the Gunners’ regular first-choice thrust him into action.

He responded by belying his tender age, keeping six clean sheets in a row and saving a decisive penalty in an FA Cup semi-final shootout as Arsenal swept their way to the double.

Manninger would remain with the north Londoners until 2001, his place in their folklore confirmed.

Little wonder, then, he still holds Wenger in the highest esteem.

“It was 20 years back now, but he started to be a modern manager,” he says. “Now you’ve got more - you’ve got Klopp, Guardiola, Mourinho, the English lads, the German guys, the Spanish guys and Argentinian guys and you have the modern way of football in the whole of Europe now. But Wenger was the first one who changed the food, changed the way of playing... and he even tried to change the back four at Arsenal, which he eventually did over a period, but not straight away.

“He made the first steps towards modern football and I am proud to have been a part of this period, with technical players, responsible players, positioning, counter-attacks… You didn’t have 4-4-2 with no-one changing anything. We were a team who worked, whoever was on the pitch, and everyone knew what each other was doing, so it made things easier.

“Wenger started to change it around with the facilities and Arsenal’s training ground was one of the first really owned and thought-through ones, with all the pitches heated and a kitchen installed there. It was fantastic. They were the early days in modern football.”

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Two decades on, football has evolved significantly and Manninger chats to Liverpoolfc.com in the recently refurbished, plush reception area of the complex in West Derby as he looks forward to welcoming his former team to his new home this weekend.

One thing that hasn’t changed, though, is his love for the game and eagerness to make a positive impact.

Pre-season friendlies aside, he hasn’t featured in any of the Reds’ games this term; his brief is one of passing on his vast experience - as well as supplying back-up - to Simon Mignolet and Loris Karius.

He will be at Anfield on Saturday, however, most likely found in the home changing room before kick-off providing encouragement, support and any titbits of information about opposing strikers he’s collated.

“It was my knowledge when I came here that I wouldn’t play every week,” said Manninger. “I knew the two young goalies were here and my job is to look after them to some point… in a different way to the coach, John Achterberg, or the manager Jürgen Klopp.

“They do the training and advise how they want the goalie to play and what they expect from a goalie. That is obviously a manager and coach’s work, but as a player I can offer a different perspective without thinking of them as competition. I can say I have been there before and I can talk to Simon or Loris differently than the manager can because I see them every day and am out on the training pitch with them each day.

“Hopefully, I can prepare them for a couple of things before they happen. So it is a nice position to be in, though obviously I want to be part of this team as well and I would like to have some minutes under my belt at some stage. It is not a competition thing or about knocking somebody off their chair, it is about helping the other ’keepers as part of the team.

"I believe in my position to try and help get the best out of the team."

“I am probably in a better position to do that than anyone else in the squad, to say, ‘Look, have you thought about doing this?’ or ‘Could you maybe do that?’

“Everything has changed a bit but of course I get flashes when I can say, ‘I’ve been there before nearly 20 years ago’. And, of course, I can give an idea of how they could do something because I would never ever say, ‘This is how you should do it’ because as I said before that is the manager or the coach’s job. But I can say, ‘Look, this happened, it will happen again but don’t worry’ or things like that. I think that is a healthy attitude.

“When I watch the games I sometimes see something and wonder if I can stimulate the team in a different way than another player who needs to concentrate on the 90 minutes. At the beginning I was involved on the bench but now I go into the changing rooms sometimes not even changed and we can talk differently as I’m not directly involved. It’s therefore not a question of someone thinking, ‘Oh, get your own game right before you think about others.’ So I can be open-minded and say, ‘Look, we trained well this week, let’s produce 90 minutes the way we trained’ and things like that. I can push in a different way than if I was playing.

“That is what makes me believe in my position and try to get the best out of the team, firstly with the goalies, of course, but then if I can help someone else such as a striker if I know the opposing goalie for instance, then hopefully that helps as well.

“I am probably the guy with the least expectation of playing week in, week out so I feel quite comfortable to be in that position but obviously I would be on my toes to play if something were to happen to the other goalies.”

Manninger signed a short-term deal with Liverpool when he jetted out to join them on their tour of the United States last July.

Interestingly, should he figure in the Premier League for the Reds, he’ll set a record for the longest gap between appearances in the division, with his last coming 16 years ago.

“That could be a target for me as well,” Manninger responds with a smile. “I have a few numbers I am happy with in my career so why not this one as well? I’m looking forward to hopefully making that happen.”

After departing Arsenal, initially for a loan stint with Fiorentina, Manninger competed in most of Europe’s top leagues, taking in La Liga, the Bundesliga and Serie A, where he won the league title with Juventus.

Prior to signing up with the Reds, he was at FC Augsburg for four seasons, keeping goal behind Ragnar Klavan.

So, a natural question springs to mind: How does Liverpool compare to his other teams and experiences?

“I think it is the peak of modern football,” is his near-instant response. “What we see, what we produce, what the manager is showing us and guiding us towards… it is an honour to still be involved in this kind of football.

“When I started as a professional footballer 22 years ago you wouldn’t even think of half the things that are part of modern football at a highly professional club. It is like a dream - a dream to be in a job as a professional footballer and then a dream to be working for someone called Liverpool Football Club. It is a club you would describe as a blue chip company and that makes me proud.

"Something is coming at Liverpool, I am convinced of it."

“Liverpool will always be a historical club but there have been difficulties too. Every club has them. I was at Juventus when we twice finished in seventh place and everyone was thinking, ‘What is this? This isn’t very Juventus-like.’ But this is the way it happens in football.

“But the club is prepared for the next step and I truly believe the question now is only when that will be because I think with these characters in charge of the club and the experience of well-organised people, it’s a question of when not if this club will lift silverware again.

“Of course there is pressure but a football pressure because you want to perform. There is pressure everywhere in life but in football, because it is a game, you need pressure to be up for it. But if you lose a game somewhere else they would often say, ‘Oh, all is gone, the whole season is rubbish.’ Here, it is more a case of saying: ‘Yes, we lost. It’s a bad result but this team is growing.’ In my opinion, something more is coming at Liverpool in the next few years. I am convinced of that.”

One large reason for such conviction is the leadership of Jürgen Klopp, Manninger explains.

“He is perfectly suited to this club. The way he is - modern and open. He is straightforward. If we lose, we lost because... If we win, we won because... It is not like [he blames] other teams, referees or players, and that’s the way I like. It’s straightforward.

“It’s not always nice to hear, but this makes things easier when you don’t need to hide things.

“Here, you don’t have this rivalry negatively. You’ve got competition, but it’s positive and that’s what the gaffer is looking after. That’s what I like to see.

“I’m a player who has been in a lot of changing rooms and here you can see a healthy group and that’s what makes me really, really excited for the next months and years.

“Something will come here, I am sure. Something will come.”

You can read more from Alex Manninger in Saturday's official matchday programme and the monthly LFC Magazine. Click here for details and to subscribe.

‘Behind the Badge’ is a regular feature on Liverpoolfc.com which aims to tell the individual stories of the numerous men and women who work tirelessly away from the spotlight in an attempt to make Liverpool FC successful.

Over the course of the season, we’ll be speaking to various members of staff across the first-team, Academy and Ladies set-ups who dedicate their lives to the club each and every day, covering a variety of different roles that make a vital contribution in preparing the Reds for action.