Liverpool FC - "You'll never walk alone...!!!

[gfresh]

Sagts mal ihr beiden, lests ihr schon irgendwie hier mit oder ignorierts ihr einfach was andere schreiben oder posten? Ich mach euch gern einen Torres-geht-wieder-mal-wohin-Thread in der Spam Arena, da könnts euch dann tagtäglich austoben.

ach ja ich vergass, dass es verboten ist, gerüchte zu posten

oder bin ich vielleicht gar nicht gemeint?

[Wolfinho]

Ich bin da auf zwei interessante Links gestossen, in denen es um die (ursprüngliche) religiöse Ausrichtung der beiden Merseyside-Clubs geht:

http://www.toffeeweb.com/fans/beingblue/religion.asp

http://foot.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=22582

Der ianrush hat mir ja schon mal erzählt das LFC der ursprünglich protestantische Verein in Liverpool ist, aber diese Diskussion verwirrt mich jetzt endgültig

[ianrush]

Ich bin da auf zwei interessante Links gestossen, in denen es um die (ursprüngliche) religiöse Ausrichtung der beiden Merseyside-Clubs geht:

http://www.toffeeweb.com/fans/beingblue/religion.asp

http://foot.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=22582

Der ianrush hat mir ja schon mal erzählt das LFC der ursprünglich protestantische Verein in Liverpool ist, aber diese Diskussion verwirrt mich jetzt endgültig

Wirkliche Unterschiede in der religiösen Ausrichtung gabs und gibt es nicht in Liverpool. Hab nur mal gehört, dass eben Liverpool, zu Beginn eher protestantisch war. Hatte aber wohl kaum Auswirkungen auf die Teamwahl, welcher Religion man nun angehörte.

[goleador2000]

Sagts mal ihr beiden, lests ihr schon irgendwie hier mit oder ignorierts ihr einfach was andere schreiben oder posten? Ich mach euch gern einen Torres-geht-wieder-mal-wohin-Thread in der Spam Arena, da könnts euch dann tagtäglich austoben.

ach ja ich vergass, dass es verboten ist, gerüchte zu posten

oder bin ich vielleicht gar nicht gemeint?

Einfach nur noch lächerlich was hier passiert wenn so eine deplatzierte Aussage sogar schon von einem Mod kommt...

Es wurde von Vereinsseite ganz klar bestätigt daß Liverpool FC offiziell mit Atlético Madrid um Fernando Torres verhandelt und er Rafas Wunschstürmer Nr. 1 ist !!!

Sollen wir in einem Fußballforum etwa über Eishockey-Spieler oder Schifahrer diskutieren...???

bearbeitet 24. Juni 2007 von goleador2000

[chinomoreno]

Es wurde von Vereinsseite ganz klar bestätigt daß Liverpool FC offiziell mit Atlético Madrid um Fernando Torres verhandelt und er Rafas Wunschstürmer Nr. 1 ist !!!

Sorry, sollte ich stören und nur rein aus Neugier: Könntest du einen Link zu dieser Bestätigung posten?

[ianrush]

Sorry, sollte ich stören und nur rein aus Neugier: Könntest du einen Link zu dieser Bestätigung posten?

Gibt es nicht. Auf der offiziellen Webseite wurde noch nie über Verhandlungen mit Torres berichtet.

bearbeitet 24. Juni 2007 von ianrush

[Tom.]

Rafa Benitez insists Djibril Cisse will only leave Liverpool on a permanent basis this summer.

Cisse spent last term on loan at Marseille and the French club are keen to hold on to the striker next season.

Marseille would prefer another loan, but have confirmed talks are ongoing regarding a deal in the region of £8million.

Bolton Wanderers are also reported to have expressed an interest in Cisse, and Reds boss Benitez outlined the club's stance on the France international.

"The situation with Cisse is clear," Benitez told the club's official website. "If another club wants him, they must buy the player.

"We do not want another loan."

Marseille chairman Pape Diouf remains upbeat about the chances of agreeing a deal with Liverpool for Cisse.

Diouf told his club's official website: "I hope that, some time next week, we will be able to find an adequate solution.

"Our wish, clearly stated, is to keep Djibril Cisse with us and his wish is to remain with us.

"It is a deal which we wish to carry out quickly in the long term."

[Sotavento]

gibts ausser torres und cissé irgendwas neues bzgl liverpool?

ist man an daniel alves interessiert? hab da mal was gelesen.

[goleador2000]

gibts ausser torres und cissé irgendwas neues bzgl liverpool?

ist man an daniel alves interessiert? hab da mal was gelesen.

RUMOUR MILL:

LIVERPOOL

IN Lucas, Gremio, £6m; A Voronin,

Bayer Leverkusen, free.

OUT F S Pongolle, Recreativo, £2.7m; R Fowler, free.

BIG ISSUE Where are the goals going to come from? AN Other striker, who'll have to come in the revolving door sharpish as Craig Bellamy leaves. Over to you, Messrs Hicks and Gillett.

THE GOSSIP Benitez looks set to test his chairmen's ambition with a swoop for Fernando Torres, but Atletico Madrid want £27m for the striker - can they really afford it? If not he could turn to Tottenham target Darren Bent or Villa target Diego Forlan, both available for £15m. Djibril Cisse, Sami Hyppia, Jerzy Dudek and Craig Bellamy all look set to move on. Wingers are being linked, so it's probably one or two out of West Ham's Yossi Benayoun, Florent Malouda, Simao and Roma's Mancini

[themanwho]

Wieder mal ein offizielles Dementi zur allgemeinen Be(un)ruhigung:

Atletico say no Reds Torres offer

Atletico Madrid president Enrique Cerezo says Liverpool have not tabled a bid for striker Fernando Torres. Champions League finalists Liverpool have been closely linked with the 23-year-old Spain international.

"We've had no offer from Liverpool for Torres," said Cerezo. "He's on his holiday and resting. I repeat that there has been nothing about Torres from any team. We're now working to create a good team for the coming year," added Cerezo.

Torres, 23, scored 14 league goals in 36 starts this season as Atletico finished seventh in La Liga. The Spanish international's Atletico contract runs until 2009. Torres came up though the youth ranks at Atletico and has been their leading scorer in each of the last five seasons.

Bin schon gespannt ob dann morgen oder erst übermorgen wieder von einem 35-Millionen-Angebot in irgendeiner B-Klatschseite geschrieben wird.

[gfresh]

Wieder mal ein offizielles Dementi zur allgemeinen Be(un)ruhigung:

Bin schon gespannt ob dann morgen oder erst übermorgen wieder von einem 35-Millionen-Angebot in irgendeiner B-Klatschseite geschrieben wird.

pass auf, gleich kommen die bösen mods und schimpfen dich milanista, weil dieses "gerücht" nicht von offizieller seite bestätigt wurde

ironie aus!

[goleador2000]

Wenn schon denn schon solltest Du lieber den gesamten Artikel posten, mein lieber Hr. Mod...

Atletico deny Torres bids as rumours place him in Liverpool

Written by Jim Boardman

Monday, 25 June 2007

The saga surrounding the possible transfer of Fernando Torres from Atletico Madrid to Liverpool takes more twists and turns by the day, today being no different. Denials there had been any offers whatsoever came from Madrid, rumours the player had already been to Anfield came from Liverpool.

The possible move has been one of the big stories in England and Spain for the past few days, matched only by coverage of the move to Barcelona of Thierry Henry. So today Atletico's president Enrique Cerezo felt he had to issue a denial about bids for his 23-year-old captain: "We've received no offer from Liverpool or any other club or player," he claimed. "There is nothing linking Torres with any team. He's on holidays, he's resting and he'll return to work on July 9." He didn't say where Torres was going for his holidays.

He did confirm that Torres has a buy-out clause in his contract, although of course didn't reveal the figure: "All the players have a clause in their contract and in that case we would not be able to do anything, but I repeat that there has been nothing about Torres from any team. We are now working to create a good team for the coming year."

The actual amount of that buy-out clause has been speculated about repeatedly, with estimates as high as £27m, but it is now believed that Atletico's failure to qualify directly for Europe has activated a much lower amount of £18m.

Rafa's budget has been the subject of various rumours too, but his relaxed stance last week suggests that since the audit of his past transfers has been completed the new owners have agreed to make more money available than normal after all. Not that they'll readily admit this just yet.

It was clear even as early as the start of last week that Rafa was left short of funds compared to what he felt he'd been promised. So when it was leaked that Liverpool were interested in Torres the story needed some way of showing how Rafa could afford a fee believed then to be somewhere between £24m and £27m. This resulted in Luis Garcia, Peter Crouch and Djibril Cissé's names being added as part of a part-exchange deal. It's no secret Liverpool are looking to offload Cissé, but Rafa certainly does not want to lose Crouch.

With it being only a couple of weeks since Thierry Henry was "spotted" at Anfield, and past experience of Zinedine Zidane and his "new house" in Formby, Reds fans would be forgiven for dismissing out of hand today's internet rumours: that Fernando Torres was spotted in the offices at the stadium this afternoon. Except this time the stories have come from more sources, and more credible sources, and include manager Rafa Benítez being at the ground too.

There's no doubt Liverpool are interested in bringing Torres to Anfield, but for how much or how soon remains to be seen. Atletico's hands are tied if the release-fee is matched - but we still don't know for sure if the Reds are willing or able to match it. That said, there are signs that the owners have quietly committed to a greater budget than Rafa was left thinking he had two weeks ago. In fact Atletico themselves are now believed to have gone for one of the targets on what was Rafa's B-list - Diego Forlan. As far as Torres being at Anfield today - well it seems strange that the club would take a risk on allowing Torres to be seen at Anfield considering he's still not officially a confirmed target, but the story is coming from reputable sources. Things certainly seem much more hopeful than they did just a couple of.

www.anfieldroad.com

Zur allgmeinen Verwirrung stelle ich noch 2 Theorien in den Raum:

a)...entweder ist wirklich nichts dran und Liverpool FC hat Torres bereits aufgegeben...was ich nicht glaube, da Rafa ihn 100%ig haben will...

...oder die Vereine haben Stillschweigen vereinbart um in Ruhe über Torres-Ablöse verhandeln zu können bzw. andere Spielerdeals (Cissé, King Luis...) mit einzubeziehen...

Ich hoffe in ein paar Tagen wissen wir wirklich woran wir sind - die Zeit drängt, wir brauchen unbedingt einen Knipser !!!

[themanwho]

Wenn schon denn schon solltest Du lieber den gesamten Artikel posten, mein lieber Hr. Mod...

Das war der ganze Bericht von der BBC, mein lieber Freund.

(e: zum nachlesen: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6239286.stm )

bearbeitet 25. Juni 2007 von themanwho

[MILANISTA]

pass auf, gleich kommen die bösen mods und schimpfen dich milanista, weil dieses "gerücht" nicht von offizieller seite bestätigt wurde

Ganz schön "gfresh"!

...oder die Vereine haben Stillschweigen vereinbart um in Ruhe über Torres-Ablöse verhandeln zu können bzw. andere Spielerdeals (Cissé, King Luis...) mit einzubeziehen...

Ist auch meine Theorie!

[Tom.]

Ist auch meine Theorie!