Arsenal - Manchester United

[ans]

Sorry für das kleine Bild, geht nicht größer.

Tja... für 90 Minuten hört sich die Freundschaft auf ....bei diesen beiden zumindest in der Zukunft!

P.S.: Sollte keine Provokation an Barca-Fans sein

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[Gigi]

Kann ich mir nicht vorstellen.

Du meinst bestimmt das League Cup Spiel zwischen Manchester United und Chelsea.

Sorry, hab mich vertan! Tut leid!

[sparkle]

gestern war es für mich kein spitzenspiel.

zwar waren beide teams sehr bemüht aber zu wenig echte torchancen.

[themanwho]

gestern war es für mich kein spitzenspiel.

zwar waren beide teams sehr bemüht aber zu wenig echte torchancen.

Hä? Die zweite Hälfte war mMn alles, was Fussball interessant macht. Eine Mannschaft, die umbedingt ein Tor machen muss, dazu ein anderes Team, welches kontern kann und auch nach dem Ausgleich weiter zu Chancen kommt, mit einer wirklich dramatischen Schlussphase.

Die erste Hälfte, okay, war zugegeben schwach.

[smithfarmer]

gestern war es für mich kein spitzenspiel.

gestern hat ja auch nicht arsenal gegen manchester united gespielt

[ans]

Wenn ihr hier über "Spitzenspiel" diskutiert, sollte mal geklärt werden, was ihr unter Spitzenspiel versteht. Ist das ein Aufeinandertreffen zweier namhaften Teams oder einfach ein tolles, attraktives Spiel?

[themanwho]

Wenn ihr hier über "Spitzenspiel" diskutiert, sollte mal geklärt werden, was ihr unter Spitzenspiel versteht. Ist das ein Aufeinandertreffen zweier namhaften Teams oder einfach ein tolles, attraktives Spiel?

Hm, heuer z.B. ist Everton gegen Middlesbrough ein Spitzenspiel, letztes Jahr war dieses Aufeinandertreffen komplett uninteressant. Daher bevorzuge ich deine erste Assoziation - die Duelle zwischen Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool/Manchester United würd ich in England als Spitzenspiele bezeichnen, da diese vier Mannschaften in den letzten Jahre mehr oder weniger immer oben mitspielen.

Ein 4-4 zwischen West Brom und Norwich (als Beispiel) ist einfach ein dramatisches, spannendes und interessantes Spiel, aber nicht mehr. Davon wird in zwei Jahren keiner mehr reden, an das Duell zwischen den Gunners und United in der letzten Saison im Old Trafford hingegen kann sich noch (fast) jeder erinnern.

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[ans]

Daraus folgt, ManU gegen Chelsea war ein Spitzenspiel. Ich unterstreiche übrigens deine Einschätzung, Spitzenspiele sind Spiele namhafter bzw. aktuell guter Mannschaften gegeneinander.

[Spain]

Hoffe auf einen Sieg von den Gunners, egal wie, damit meine ich jetzt nicht unfair oder derartige Unsportlichkeiten, sondern knapp oder eindeutig -egal wie, Hauptsache Sieg.

[Starostyak]

Nicht vergessen, heute 21:00 steigt das Schlagerspiel in der Premier League

[Savio]

Nicht vergessen, heute 21:00 steigt das Schlagerspiel in der Premier League

Für mich leider nur vor dem Live-Ticker...

[Cristiano Ronaldo]

Hier ein paar sehr interessante Fakten zum Spiel von der BBC-Homepage:

Pascal Cygan is set to play in defence again for Arsenal while Thierry Henry and Patrick Vieira should be fit.

Manuel Almunia will replace Jens Lehmann, while Ashley Cole, Lauren and Dennis Bergkamp are set to return.

Ryan Giggs should recover from a hamstring strain to take his place in Manchester United's squad.

Roy Keane and Paul Scholes should also return to the starting line-up but Alan Smith and Darren Fletcher are both doubtful with ankle injuries.

Arsenal: Almunia, Eboue, Campbell, Cygan, Cole, Lauren, Clichy, Ljungberg, Owusu-Abeyie, Vieira, Flamini, Reyes, Bergkamp, Pires, Van Persie, Fabregas, Henry, Lehmann, Hoyte.

Man Utd: Carroll, Howard, G Neville, P Neville, Ferdinand, Silvestre, Brown, O'Shea, Heinze, Fortune, Ronaldo, Scholes, Keane, Fletcher, Miller, Giggs, Rooney, Saha, Smith, Bellion.

BIG-MATCH FACTS

# ARSENAL get their opportunity to avenge the 2-0 defeat at Old Trafford in October in this eagerly awaited return and much-hyped Premiership showdown, which is being billed as a battle for second spot. The Red Devils denied the Gunners the half century of unbeaten Premiership matches three months ago. Now the north London giants are pursuing a 50th home League win over their deadly rivals.

# The Gunners have faced United once since the Premiership clash which proved such a turning point in their season. They lost 2-0 at Old Trafford in the Carling Cup. Nevertheless Arsene Wenger still holds the advantage in the head-to-head count with his great adversary Sir Alex Ferguson. The Frenchman has 11 wins to his name, Sir Alex 10 with six draws (counting last season's Community Shield, decided on penalties, as a United win). This will be their fourth meeting this season - Arsenal having won this season's Community Shield 3-1 at the Millennium Stadium in August.

# If the Gunners avoid defeat they will extend their top flight club record of unbeaten home games to 33, leaving them just three short of Manchester United's all time Premiership record of 36, set between December 1998 and December 2000. Should Arsenal keep a clean sheet, it will be their 200th in the Premiership.

# MANCHESTER UNITED are still very much alive in this season's Champions League, but will still be out to gain the victory here to take second spot off Arsenal and put themselves in the driving seat for automatic entry to the group stages of next season's competition.

# The Red Devils are unbeaten in 13 Premiership matches. Since losing 2-0 at Portsmouth on 30 October, United have drawn three and won ten, including the last three on the bounce away from home, with clean sheets in all three. This match pits the club whose Premiership games have produced the highest number of goals, against the one whose matches have yielded the least. Arsenal's 24 games have totalled 78 goals (53 for, 25 against) while United's have comprised of 51 (37 for, 14 against).

# United are on a five match unbeaten Premiership run against Arsenal. They've won two and drawn three since the Gunners' 0-1 win at Old Trafford on 8 May 2002. They completed the 'double' over the Red Devils that season having won the home fixture 3-1 on 25 November 2001 - United's last League loss at Highbury. The last two top flight visits have been 2-2 and 1-1 draws, and United's only win in seven League visits was 1-2 on 22 August 1999. Ferguson's side could complete a second Premiership 'double' over Arsenal, and first since 1996/97. In all, they've registered 13 home and away League wins over the north London club since they first engaged in League combat in 1894.

Referee:

Graham Poll (Tring)

SEQUENCES/RECENT FORM

ARSENAL

Club stats

Fixtures

2nd 51 points

Highest achievable after the Tuesday's matches: 2nd

Lowest could fall: 3rd

# Won 15 Premiership games. Only Chelsea have won more (19).

# Lost three top division games. Only Chelsea (one), and Manchester United (two) have lost less.

# Scored 53 top tier goals (one every 41 minutes on average) - more than any other club.

# Failed to score in two Premiership games - fewer than any other club. Lost both matches (v Manchester Utd and Bolton - both away).

# Scored first in 18 matches in the highest echelon - only Chelsea have managed it more often (19).

# Lost the lead in nine top flight matches. Only Newcastle have conceded the advantage more often (14).

# Third in the Premiership's "Last Six Current Form" table with 13 points from the possible 18. Chelsea are top with 18, Manchester United second with 16.

# Won all nine League games when clean sheets have been kept.

# Won last three at home, in all competitions.

# Looking for a 19th home League and Cup game this season without defeat.

# One of three clubs still holding an unbeaten home record in the Premiership. Chelsea and Manchester United are the others.

# Highest scorers in home top flight matches (29).

MANCHESTER UNITED

Club stats

Fixtures

3rd 50 points

Highest achievable after the Tuesday's matches: 2nd

Lowest could fall: 3rd

# Won 14 Premiership matches. Only Chelsea (19) and Arsenal (15) have won more.

# Lost only twice in the top division (both away to Chelsea and Portsmouth). Only Chelsea, with one defeat, have lost less often.

# Conceded 14 top flight goals. Only Chelsea have shipped fewer (eight).

# Kept 13 clean sheets at the top League level. Only Chelsea have managed more (18).

# Second in the Premiership's "Last Six Current Form" table with 16 points. Chelsea are top of the table with a 100% 18 points.

# Scored 10 goals in the last 15 minutes of Premiership games this term.

# Seeking a 7th consecutive away League game without defeat.

# Won 22 away points. Only Chelsea (29) and Arsenal (25) have picked up more on their Premiership travels.

# Lost only twice on the road in the uppermost League. Chelsea have lost once away from home.

# Not conceded in the last five League and Cup games, away from home.

# Gone three Premiership matches away from Old Trafford without shipping a goal.

# Not conceded in 273 minutes (four hours 33 minutes) of top flight soccer on the road since Pape Bouba Diop's late equaliser for Fulham on 13 December.

KEY PLAYER NOTES/POTENTIAL MILESTONES

ARSENAL

Squad profiles

# Thierry HENRY is the leading scorer of club goals among Premiership players with 20, four ahead of Jermain DEFOE of Tottenham.

# HENRY also leads the way in the Barclays Golden Boot standings with 16 Premiership goals, two ahead of Andy JOHNSON of Crystal Palace. Robert PIRES of Arsenal is equal third in the list with 10.

# But HENRY has not scored in seven matches for Arsenal.

# If he plays, Jose Antonio REYES will be making his 50th appearance for the Gunners.

MANCHESTER UNITED

Squad profiles

# If he participates, Darren FLETCHER will be playing on his 21st birthday.

# Roy KEANE is still looking for the one elusive goal he needs to take his tally for Manchester United to 50.

# If he figures, Paul SCHOLES will be making his 450th appearance for the Red Devils.

LAST SEASON'S CORRESPONDING GAME:

Arsenal 1-1 Manchester United

28 March 2004 - Ref: Graham Poll

Arsenal scorer: Henry 50

Man United scorer: Saha 86

THIS SEASON'S REVERSE FIXTURE:

Manchester United 2-0 Arsenal

24 October 2004 - Ref: Mike Riley

Man United scorers: van Nistelrooy 73 pen, Rooney 90

HEAD TO HEAD TOTALS

League: Arsenal 63 wins, Man United 69, Draws 39

Prem: Arsenal 7 wins, Man United 10, Draws 8

HEAD TO HEAD at Arsenal

League: Arsenal 49 wins, Man United 21, Draws 15

Prem: Arsenal 5 wins, Man United 3, Draws 4

[Savio]

Wie vor jedem Schlagerspiel verbreitet Wenger Gerüchte, von wegen seine Leistungsträger seien nicht fit.

Ein wenig Kopfzerbrechen macht mir der mögliche Einsatz von Pascal Cygan in der Abwehr. Hat er doch schon einige Tore "verschuldet" in dieser Saison.

Auf der Gegenseite bin ich von der raschen Genesung Ryan Gigg's doch etwas überrascht. Habe von einer etwas längeren Achillessehnen-Verletzung gelesen.

[ans]

Freue mich schon wie ein kleines Kind ..

[themanwho]

Hab seit 17:00 Ferien

Freue mich auch schon gewaltig aufs Spiel (leider ohne Ruud, der gehört einfach dazu bei so einem Spiel), und aufs anschließende Fortgehn und Feiern des United-Siegs