9. Spieltag


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Zeit wird's endlich wieder:

17. Oktober

13:45 Aston Villa - Chelsea (Sky)

16:00 Manchester United - Bolton (Sky)

16:00 Arsenal - Birmingham

16:00 Everton - Wolverhampton

16:00 Portsmouth - Tottenham

16:00 Stoke City - West Ham

16:00 Sunderland - Liverpool

18. Oktober

14:00 Blackburn - Burnley (Sky)

17:00 Wigan - Manchester City (Sky)

19. Oktober

21:00 Fulham - Hull City (Sky)

persönlich hoffe ich, dass Chelsea vielleicht Punkte lässt und United wieder überzeugender ist als vorige Runde...

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oi! gorgeous! what's your name?

Blackurn-Burnley bitte in den Untertitel. Erstes Top flight Duell seit 66. :love:

edit: dankeschön ;)

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oi! gorgeous! what's your name?

Gleich gehts los. Die Stimmung :love:

Lustiges Spiel bis jetzt, 2-1. Samba spielt ohne Nummer :lol:

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ewig Reisender

kurze Frage am Rande. Warum is das Spiel so besonders?? Nur weil die 2 Städte so nah beinander liegen und schon lange nicht mehr gegeneinander gespielt ham oder is da mehr dahinter??

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oi! gorgeous! what's your name?

kurze Frage am Rande. Warum is das Spiel so besonders?? Nur weil die 2 Städte so nah beinander liegen und schon lange nicht mehr gegeneinander gespielt ham oder is da mehr dahinter??

Naja, grundsätzlich sind die Rivalitäten da oben ja schon recht groß (Blackburn, Burnley, Preston, Blackpool)...

"It has taken a while, but the long-established Blackburn-Burnley rivalry/animosity/stunt contest has finally made it into the Premier League. It might have been easier just to describe it as a derby, except the on-off relationship between two east Lancashire towns (please don't try to tell me Blackburn is a city) is small beer by British football standards. No Glasgow, Merseyside, Manchester or north London, certainly. The nature of the north-east derby comes closest, with people from one area simply brought up to dislike the other lot whether they are interested in football or not, but the east Lancashire derby is on a smaller scale.

Put it like this: unless you come from either town, you won't be able to tell the difference between the two dialects. An expert in linguistics might be able to detect that the letter "r" is rolled for longer and with more relish on the Burnley side of the divide, but it could be the other way round.

Though small in scale, and more local than Royston Vasey, the east Lancashire rivalry lacks nothing in wit or imagination. Manchester United fans flew a giant red shirt over Eastlands as the latest Manchester City revolution kicked off last August, although east Lancashire came up with that aerial trick well over a decade ago."


Graeme Souness has been involved in some high-octane derbies in his time - Glasgow, Merseyside and Istanbul to name just a few - but he will not have experienced anything quite like the East Lancashire derby at Turf Moor this afternoon.

This particular East Lancashire derby, at any rate. Though the enmity between Burnley and Blackburn Rovers supporters is fairly well known, a rivalry between two former cotton towns eight miles apart does not normally amount to much in the grand scheme of things, for the simple reason that the two clubs are not normally playing each other.

One has to go back to 4 April 1983 for the last League meeting of the Rovers and the Clarets, an occasion distinguished, if that is the word, by a lengthy stoppage in play caused by Burnley fans setting on fire and partly demolishing the old Ewood stand that housed them.

Ah, the good old days. Burnley supporters claim they were merely drawing attention to the urgent need for urban regeneration in Blackburn, several years before Jack Walker was struck by the same idea. It would be considerably more difficult to dismantle any part of Ewood now, and that is part of the trouble. For while Rovers have spent at least a portion of the past 17 years transforming their stadium and their training facilities, employing Kenny Dalglish and Alan Shearer and carrying off the Premiership title in 1995, Burnley have only gradually pulled themselves back from the brink of dropping out of the League and in all probability out of existence.

Some thought this derby might never be played again. One or two Blackburn supporters were rash enough to turn that claim into a boast. To say Burnley fans have been eagerly awaiting this afternoon's encounter, confirming as it does that one club have moved back up to their proper station while the other have come back down, would be to risk the understatement of the season. Or the past 17 seasons. One Burnley follower expressed the view several years ago, when the two clubs were still moving in opposite directions, that while he was looking forward to the eventual resurrection of the derby he feared such a game might have to be played in Beirut.

That precaution has been deemed unnecessary, though the police and the two clubs are trying just about everything else. Blackburn supporters are being bussed into their neighbours' ground under police escort. Supporters buying tickets at Ewood are being told that unless they accept a seat on transport the club are providing their safety cannot be guaranteed. Police also tried to shut down Burnley town centre, shops as well as pubs, for the afternoon of the game.

Ordinarily this should not have proved too difficult for a 4pm kick-off on a Sunday, but Burnley intends to be open for its last big shopping Sunday before Christmas. For this reason, attempts to have the kick-off brought forward were resisted. A morning or lunchtime start would have meant a crowd of about 22,600 emptying into a busy town centre - despite the bucolic name, Turf Moor is one of the most centrally situated of football grounds - but a 4pm kick-off leaves plenty of time for a good drink before the game, assuming fans can find someone to serve them.

The possibility that they might presumably explains why the clubs held a joint press conference four days ago, to appeal for calm and common sense. 'Please stay away if you intend to cause trouble,' said Burnley manager Stan Ternent, a touch optimistically. 'I hope this occasion can be remembered as a great game of football,' said his counterpart Souness. 'It might only take one lunatic to set something off and spoil it.'

Heaven forbid anyone does anything provocative like planting a team flag in the opposition's centre circle then. Blackburn fans will be so heavily guarded by police there seems little prospect of interaction between supporters, but trouble between Burnley fans and police cannot be ruled out, particularly as not everyone who wants to see the gamed can get a ticket.

Violence apart, it is difficult to imagine the match passing entirely without mischief. Blackburn supporters organised one of the most famous stunts of all when they hired an aeroplane to fly over Turf Moor during an (unsuccessful) Fourth Division play-off 10 years ago trailing the message 'Staying Down Forever'.

Despite that memorable incident, most of the passion in this rivalry comes from the Burnley end. Blackburn do not hate Burnley with anything like the same venom; in fact they have spent the past decade trying to forget they were ever involved in anything so parochial as an East Lancashire derby. This arrogance alone riles Burnley all the more.

'They have been trying to ignore us, but we've come back to haunt them,' said Edward Lee, sports editor of the Burnley Express . 'Blackburn didn't want to know Burnley a few years ago, they were telling everyone their derby games were against Manchester United and Liverpool. Funny, we all thought, you never hear anyone in Manchester or Liverpool talking about derby games with Blackburn. It goes without saying that people in Burnley were happy to see Blackburn relegated. It was a fitting punishment for trying to turn their back on their roots.'

Burnley would never have done such a thing, not even with Walker as a benefactor. Not that the Clarets would have welcomed Jack Walker as a benefactor. 'Burnley fans have thought about this a lot, and we all wish Jack Walker had been born somewhere else,' Lee said. 'It wouldn't have bothered us if he had been so generous to Bolton or Blackpool, anyone but Blackburn. We do not wish he had been born in Burnley, though, because we know it wouldn't have made any difference. The old board would have turned him away. There is some money at Burnley now, but only because the club was virtually reborn a few years ago after almost going out of business. The old board was perfectly capable of showing millionaire backers the door, as the present chairman and vice-chairman know only too well. In fact it is often said that had Jack Walker been born in Burnley he would still have all his money.'

One of the great attractions of this rivalry is that because the two towns are separate entities - eight miles is still a long way in Lancashire - there is hardly any point of contact between the two until the day of the game. Blackburn papers run Blackburn news only and vice versa for Burnley. It is not like Liverpool, Glasgow or London, where media outlets have to pretend a strict neutrality.

Only Radio Lancashire, which covers both clubs, is in that position this afternoon, and chief commentator Howard Booth has booked himself a seat on the fence already. 'I think it will be a draw, and I hope there won't be any trouble,' he said. 'There is no point pretending these supporters like each other, though. I think the police are right to be cautious, because apart from the troublesome element, both these clubs have a lot of family supporters. You see a lot of women and children at both grounds, and it is not uncommon for three generations from the same family to watch the game together.

'That may not sound like a recipe for disaster, but what has happened to these two clubs is pretty unique. There aren't many clubs who have done what Blackburn have done, and there aren't many places as insular as Burnley. Old Firm derbies might be the most intense, passionate footballing events in these islands, but none of those meetings will have been as feverishly anticipated as this one. I just hope, with the television cameras present, everyone stays calm and lets two great clubs do themselves justice.'


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