Barcelonas Präsidentschaftswahlkampf

[Jordi]

Benedito dürfte bisher einen großartigen Wahlkampf führen was man so vernimmt. Bin schon gespannt wie er schlussendlich abschneiden wird.

[Jorly]

Bitte bitte bitte bitte:

http://barcaelections2010.blogspot.com/2010/06/rumours-about-pact-benedito-ingla.html

[Jordi]

Bitte bitte bitte bitte:

http://barcaelection...dito-ingla.html

Auch gerade gesehen. Das wär wohl wirklich ein Traum.

[Jorly]

Ferrer wär mir dabei eigentlich noch egal, aber Ingla (+ Soriano, Vicens, Godall) + Benedito hätte schon was.

Leider wird halt in dem Artikel auch erwähnt, dass Benedito vor der Wahl mit Sicherheit keinen Pakt mehr eingehen wird.

Aja, gestern einen Kommentar auf EMD gelesen (pro Rosell), es wurde die Kritik an seiner Person kritisiert, ohne auf Inhalte einzugehen, lediglich "Favorit wird zu unrecht kritisiert"... In der Comment-Section waren sehr viele empörte Beiträge zu lesen, EMD sei mittlerweile derart unglaubwürdig bzgl. Wahlen, etc., ist ja nicht so dass die Leute dumm sind und nicht mitbekommen welch elendige Propaganda EMD für Rosell betreibt.

[Jordi]

Ferrer wär mir dabei eigentlich noch egal, aber Ingla (+ Soriano, Vicens, Godall) + Benedito hätte schon was.

Leider wird halt in dem Artikel auch erwähnt, dass Benedito vor der Wahl mit Sicherheit keinen Pakt mehr eingehen wird.

Aja, gestern einen Kommentar auf EMD gelesen (pro Rosell), es wurde die Kritik an seiner Person kritisiert, ohne auf Inhalte einzugehen, lediglich "Favorit wird zu unrecht kritisiert"... In der Comment-Section waren sehr viele empörte Beiträge zu lesen, EMD sei mittlerweile derart unglaubwürdig bzgl. Wahlen, etc., ist ja nicht so dass die Leute dumm sind und nicht mitbekommen welch elendige Propaganda EMD für Rosell betreibt.

Das ist wirklich eine traurige Entwicklung. EMD spinnt seit längerem sowieso nur noch herum. Letztes Jahr Eto'o, jetzt Ibra und noch dazu diese vollkommene Unterstützung eines einzigen Kandidaten. Erinnert mich immer mehr an eine bestimmt Sportzeitung aus Madrid.

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[Frogga]

Bitte bitte bitte bitte:

http://barcaelections2010.blogspot.com/2010/06/rumours-about-pact-benedito-ingla.html

Die Idee ist reizvoll, aber ich glaube das führt zwangsläufig früher oder später zu Spannungen...

[Jordi]

Die Idee ist reizvoll, aber ich glaube das führt zwangsläufig früher oder später zu Spannungen...

Ich glaub das Problem daran wäre ganz einfach Ferrer, bzw. Laporta. Beide, Ingla sowie Benedito, sind mehr oder weniger wegen Laporta zurückgetreten. Mit Ferrer wäre dieser auch weiterhin im Boot was sicher zu den von dir angesprochenen Spannungen führen würde.

[Jordi]

http://www.barcelona...elections-pt-3/

Rosell Vorstellung im von Jorly gepostetetn Blog. Hochobjektiv

My Take: A vote for Sandro Rosell is a vote for xenophobia at best and racism at worst, with a sprinkling of hypocritical “universality” thrown in. He is not a decent candidate by any stretch because his social approach is devoid of decency and devoid of logic. He falls into nationalist rhetoric and emerges a morally bankrupt man whose entire candidacy rests on shouting hatred from the rooftops. Reprehensible and disgusting, to say the least.

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[Jordi]

Und die 3. Debatte:

Contract renewal Xavi

Rosell: "It's a good thing if the technical staff has approved it. He will most probably become the player with the most games at the club.

Benedito: "I'm happy."

Ingla: "Good news. Xavi has the Barça DNA, he could become a coach at the club later.

Ferrer: "He deserves to finish his career at Barça."

Role of the president

Ingla: "The president shouldn't intervene. The president shouldn't get involved in the sports area. A president shouldn't propose players to the coach and put pressure on them."

Rosell: "Everyone has his task but the president has to mark the limits."

Ferrer: "It depends on the moment. If Guardiola asks for Chygrynskiy after winning the treble, it's difficult not to follow him. But the president shouldn't think he knows more than the coach. He should stay away from the technical decisions and not want to throw out for example Rijkaard after some games, or dismiss Tito Vilanova [goes for Rosell]."

Benedito: "The president should only put economic limits."

Ferrer: "In February 2005, Rosell wanted to throw out Rijkaard and replace him by Gratacós, and later Scolari."

Ingla: "I confirm this."

Rosell: "That's not tru, I said we should turn things around or else the league could slip away. And first we indeed thought about Gratacos, because we didn't have money for another coach."

Benedito: "I was at that time part of the sports commission, following the handball section. I didn't have power to decide. And Rosell was indeed interventionist. Ingla also, in the marketing department."

Ingla: "I remember perfectly that Rosell wanted to change the coach just before winning the first league. As far as the marketing department is concerned, we were working hard to change things but I always worked with the permission of the board."

Ferrer: "Rosell has businesses in the world of football and that makes him wanting to intervene."

Rosell: "I will sell my business if I'm elected and I never represented players, I'm mostly working for multinationals. The times are also different, now the model is clear."

Ferrer: "Rosell left in 2005, because he didn't like the model we were building. Like Ingla in 2008, who also wanted Mourinho."

Rosell: "I left because we weren't executing the election program."

Ingla: "In November, we already wanted Guardiola. In January, Mourinho offered himself, so we went to see him but upon return I told the president we couldn't sign him. I have witnesses of that meeting, like former director Murtra."

Ingla: "Rosell brought lists with his favourite players to the board, like Maniche, Costinha and others, and the sports director had to choose."

Rosell: "We should finish the youth centre."

Ferrer: "We will finish it this year."

Rosell: "We want another youth academy, also for the other sections."

Ferrer: "We already have that."

Benedito: "We need more youth academy and private jets."

Ferrer: "Benedito has never been in the board so he can't know all that. Most private jets are put at our disposal by the FIFA and others to go and get the prizes of the players."

Successor Guardiola? Do we want to keep the style?

Ingla: "We should keep the style we put in place in 2003. We should have a long-term view."

Ferrer: "We'll see what happens with Guardiola, we'll start with 2-3 more years and then we'll see if he wants to stay."

Rosell: "We will try to convince Guardiola to stay for the six years. We should keep the style."

Youth academy

Ingla and Ferrer: "We want a more global youth academy."

Rosell and Benedito: "We should only have the academy in Barcelona."

Youth stand

Rosell: "We want it because we want more animation in the stadium."

Ingla: "The Catalans are like this, over the last years the atmosphere has already gotten better. A united youth stands is a chance for the hooligans to get back in."

Benedito: "Rosell is playing with fire, although I agree we need more animation. But we should analyze the issue very carefully."

Ferrer: "At the game against Inter for example, we had the best animation in years."

[Frogga]

Hab jetzt echt lange überlegt: Meine Wahl würde auf Marc Ingla fallen.

Warum? Trotz der Mourinho-Geschichte glaube ich, dass bei diesem Team der jetztige Weg am besten fortgesetzt werden würde. Auch wenn Ingla damals das Schiff verlassen hat, ist er ein fähiger Mann. UND: Er scheint ein ruhiger Zeitgenosse zu sein und nicht so impulsiv wie Rosell.

Warum nicht Ferrer? Ingla und Ferrer nehmen sich nicht viel, auch bei Jaume wäre der Weg sichergestellt. Das Team bei Ingla ist besser, vorallem wegen Soriano.

Warum nicht Rosell? Ich glaube, dass auch er ein fähiger Präsident wäre und die Horrorgeschichten glaub ich nicht wirklich. Aber es gibt doch zuviele Fragezeichen für mich.

Warum nicht Benedito? Ich mag seinen Ansatz, aber er hat keine Chance.

[*Mani*]

Vierte und letzte Debatte:

The presidency of Laporta

Benedito: "Laporta is the president of the best Barça in history. He changed the club at a crucial moment. The problem is that he later forget about the original project."

Ferrer: "Like Guardiola, I would say thanks to the president for those seven years. During this presidency we changed the club. We won a record number of trophies. Economically we've recovered. We have more members and fan clubs than ever."

Ingla: "I also want to say thanks to the president. Another thing I want to point out is the fight against the hooligans. At the end, he made overexposed himself a bit."

Rosell: "The first big decision was to keep the violent people out of the stadium. The second was to put unicef on the shirt, I want to congratulate the coach for that. And thirdly, the appointment of Guardiola. Not good were the political involvement and the link with the members. Economically there are too much expenses."

Sports area

Ferrer: "What is working, shouldn't be touched. We will continue with the same playing style and the same people. We'll put even more emphasis on the youth academy and the other sections."

Ingla: "We want to continue. We also want to keep Txiki, one of the architects of this model, like Rijkaard and Cruyff. If Txiki wouldn't continue, Txiki and Guardiola will help to decide on his successor. We should have youth academies abroad."

Rosell: "This is the model we've started in 2003, so we'll keep the same model. Since Txiki has already said he won't stay, we will appoint somebody else. We will offer Guardiola a contract of 6 years, that will be renewable each year. We will close deals with foreign clubs."

Benedito: "We all share this model, but the model isn't linked with people."

Ferrer: "Txiki didn't say he will stop. I talked with him and I'm convinced he will want to continue."

Rosell: "If Txiki wants to continue, we'll talk with him and give him the chance to explain himself, we'll explain him our project and if Guardiola als wants it, he'll continue."

Ingla: "Sandro has a youth academy in Qatar and that could cause conflicts of interests."

Rosell: "It's just a solidary project. And I will sell my company."

Ingla: "We have been contacted by Rooney and two, three other players but we passed the information to Txiki."

Ferrer+Rosell+Benedito: "The people from the sports departmen should decide on the transfers, we can only put financial limits."

Economic area

Ingla: "We're far better than in 2003. Unicef is a good decision. Foster, We won't execute it."

Rosell: "We will reduce the expenses, so we can keep on growing."

Benedito: "We should make profit. We should not be forced to sell assets if we want to invest."

Ferrer: "The economic situation of the club is very good. In 2003, we lost money. Now we're making profits."

Rosell: "Unicef will continue, Foster won't be executed but we will profoundly remodel the stadium."

Benedito: "If we will be elected, we will stop the reclassification of the miniestadi site."

Ingla: "The times of the games can't be changed, the televisions won't accept it."

Ferrer: "It's populist Rosell wants to play at 5pm, the television rights will drop by 50%."

Social area

Rosell: "I've talked with a lot of members and want to give them again the feeling that they the owners of the club."

Benedito: "We want to make the members feel represented. Rosell is the reprensentative of the elite."

Ferrer: "we want to keep the people happy by winning, that's the first thing. We want the most Catalan and the most global Barça in history. The foundation should also continue with the international agreements."

Ingla: "We want to give more comfort to the members when coming to the stadium. We want to help the members who have financial problems. We don't want to exclude anyone."

Final statement

Benedito: "We'll the candidacy of the people. No one expected we would arrive here and we will fight until the end."

Ferrer: "The continuity of the best Barça in history is in play."

Ingla: "We shouldn't change the model of the club. Our candidacy has the most experience, we're the guarantee of this model."

Rosell: "We know what the member wants, everything what he wants is in our program. We won't fail."

http://barcaelections2010.blogspot.com/2010/06/live-coverage-fourth-presidential.html

[Jorly]

http://barcaelections2010.blogspot.com/2010/06/1900-2000.html

It is confirmed that Marc Ingla, Jaume Ferrer and Agustí Benedito last night had a dinner trying to form a united candidacy. A deal wasn't possible because they couldn't find an agreement about who should lead the candidacy.

[Jorly]

http://barcaelections2010.blogspot.com/2010/06/2100-2200.html

Exit poll TV3 and Catalunya Ràdio: Rosell 62.2%, Benedito 14.7%, Ingla 12% and Ferrer 9.9%

[*Mani*]

In dieser Deutlichkeit überrascht mich das jetzt schon.

Ist zwar noch nicht offiziell, aber Sandro Rosell wird Präsident werden, das ist schon allen klar:

Ingla: "First we should congratulate Sandro and his team. We have to accept the result. Maybe we decided a bit too late to run."

Ferrer: "We're very disappointed. We congratulate Sandro Rosell and wish him the best. I also thank all voters who came to vote."

"The result is clear. We should analyze in the coming days what has happened."

Benedito: "We have a new president, I have congratulated him and I hope he does well. In one week we have achieved a lot. We'll see what the future will bring. It was good to see Laporta came to congratulate me, I didn't see him for a while."

[Rijkaard]

Danke für die schönen jahre joan...