ATP/WTA-Tour 2016

[loewinger]

Harter Kampf! Murray ringt Raonic nieder: 5:7 7:6 7:6

Djokovic muss nachziehen.

[flanders]

Freu mich heut schon auf das Finale. Direktes Duell um Platz 1 in der Rangliste, was will man mehr.

Favorit ist für mich Djokovic. Allein schon deshalb weil Murray das gestrige Spiel körperlich merken muss. Dagegen hatte Djoker zuletzt zwei lockere Trainingseinheiten gegen Goffin und Nishikori.

[loewinger]

flanders schrieb vor 3 Stunden:

Freu mich heut schon auf das Finale. Direktes Duell um Platz 1 in der Rangliste, was will man mehr.

Favorit ist für mich Djokovic. Allein schon deshalb weil Murray das gestrige Spiel körperlich merken muss. Dagegen hatte Djoker zuletzt zwei lockere Trainingseinheiten gegen Goffin und Nishikori.

Djokovic - Murray find' ich meistens seeehr zach. Stimmt schon, das Duell um die #1 bringt hoffentlich Würze rein. Und wer weiß, was die letzten Erfolge evtl. bei ihm ausgelöst haben. Mein Gefühl sagt aber auch, dass der Djoker dem Mörri trotz allem wiedermal die Grenzen aufzeigt.

[lp-x]

ziemlich unspektakulär bislang.

Djokovic recht schwach.

[Zuckerhut]

Spiel durch, drecks Publikum.

[flanders]

Gut war dann doch ziemlich einseitig, hätt ich so nicht erwartet. Murray ist derzeit nicht zu biegen, Djokovic hat es ihm aber auch ziemlich einfach gemacht mit seinen Fehlern. Der vergebene Smash + Vorhand Schlag am Netz waren ja zwei Elfer ohne Torhüter. 

Bin gespannt ob Murray seine Form mit ins neue Jahr bringen kann. Das tut dem Tennis gut wenn nicht nur einer allein die Tour dominiert. 

[Xaverl Nick]

flanders schrieb am 20.11.2016 um 21:40 :

 

Bin gespannt ob Murray seine Form mit ins neue Jahr bringen kann. Das tut dem Tennis gut wenn nicht nur einer allein die Tour dominiert. 

Wie Murray seit Wimbledon?

[Feanor1990]

Xaverl Nick schrieb vor einer Stunde:

Wie Murray seit Wimbledon?

Bei den US Open hat er aber versagt.

[flanders]

Xaverl Nick schrieb vor 3 Stunden:

Wie Murray seit Wimbledon?

Jetzt hat es ein direktes Duell um Platz 1 gegeben. Federer gegen Nadal, Sampras gegen Agassi,... solche Duelle um den Tennisthron haben mir immer schon getaugt. Murray wird jetzt nicht dauerhaft die Tour dominieren. Dazu ist Djokovic auch zu stark. Murray hat jetzt einen Lauf, trotzdem sehe ich da ein spannendes Duell auf uns zukommen.

[loewinger]

flanders schrieb vor 2 Stunden:

Jetzt hat es ein direktes Duell um Platz 1 gegeben. Federer gegen Nadal, Sampras gegen Agassi,... solche Duelle um den Tennisthron haben mir immer schon getaugt. Murray wird jetzt nicht dauerhaft die Tour dominieren. Dazu ist Djokovic auch zu stark. Murray hat jetzt einen Lauf, trotzdem sehe ich da ein spannendes Duell auf uns zukommen.

Abgesehen davon ist Murray jetzt mal zwei, drei Wochen lang #1. Wie lang war's Djokovic zuvor am Stück? 150 Wochen? Kein Ahnung, in den letzten zehn Jahren hatten wir aber gerade mal Federer, Nadal und Djokovic. Da ist eine neue #1 eine willkommene Abwechslung.
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Was auf jeden Fall spannend wird, ist die Auslosung für die Australian Open:

- Thiem mit guter Setzung auf 8
- Nadal nur mehr auf 9
- Federer auf 16
- Del Potro auf 38

Da warten jedenfalls schon früh echte Kracher! Auch für einen Thiem wird die Auslosung sauwichtig sein... Vorfreude!

 

[flanders]

loewinger schrieb vor 18 Minuten:

Abgesehen davon ist Murray jetzt mal zwei, drei Wochen lang #1. Wie lang war's Djokovic zuvor am Stück? 150 Wochen? Kein Ahnung, in den letzten zehn Jahren hatten wir aber gerade mal Federer, Nadal und Djokovic. Da ist eine neue #1 eine willkommene Abwechslung.
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Was auf jeden Fall spannend wird, ist die Auslosung für die Australian Open:

- Thiem mit guter Setzung auf 8
- Nadal nur mehr auf 9
- Federer auf 16
- Del Potro auf 38

Da warten jedenfalls schon früh echte Kracher! Auch für einen Thiem wird die Auslosung sauwichtig sein... Vorfreude!

 

Zum oberen Teil: genau meine Meinung.

Zum Rest: Mal schauen, ob Federer und Nadal fit sind zu dem Zeitpunkt. Del Potro als Gegner in den ersten Runden zu haben, ist ein hartes Los. Da wirds nicht mehr lang dauern bis der in den Top10 steht.

[loewinger]

flanders schrieb vor 19 Minuten:

Mal schauen, ob Federer und Nadal fit sind zu dem Zeitpunkt. Del Potro als Gegner in den ersten Runden zu haben, ist ein hartes Los. Da wirds nicht mehr lang dauern bis der in den Top10 steht.

Bei Nadal hab' ich jetzt nicht den Einblick, gehe aber davon aus, dass er zu Saisonbeginn mit dabei ist. Weißt du mehr?

Aber Federer wird "definitv" am Start sein. Ich hab's schon mal gepostet, aber wurscht. Bitte lesen, echt ein feines Interview, wenn auch lang. Das hat ein User im MTF dankenswerterweise ins Englische übersetzt. Geht um seine eigene Ambitionen, Djokovics mentale Probleme nach dem French-Open-Titel, um DelPotro, usw... Ich hau's wieder in den Spoiler, weil's sehr lang ist:

Spoiler

It's been a while since we heard from Roger Federer on the court, but that does not mean his history, one of the biggest made in tennis, has exhausted the last chapter. No, the former world number one is thoroughly preparing to overcome his back problems and knee, because he wants to show his best in 2017. And then?

"Tennis will survive just fine without me," the Swiss 35-year-old said smiling during an interview with us in Geneva. He admitted that "it will be weird," the day that neither he nor Rafael Nadal are in the circuit. Federer also left his forecast for the final of the Davis Cup, while analyzing the year of Juan Martin Del Potro: "Very impressive." So convinced is the seven-time Wimbledon champion that there is still much on his tennis racquet, he left a provocative phrase: "I will return much stronger than people think"

Q: How are your back and your knee?

RF: There are always ups and downs, but it is not worrying. It was because of my knee that I had to stop, but the fact is that during the last five weeks I feel a noticeable improvement. I still have 70 days to get ready. It's a lot of time. Usually the players do not have more than 30 days to recover. The coming weeks will be crucial, because I assume that soon it will be one hundred percent recovered. I'm really at peace.

Q: Have you returned to normal training?

RF:Almost. I went from the rehabilitation phase to some more specific exercises with Pierre Paganini, my fitness trainer, and try to combine it with tennis. It is a very interesting phase. It seems like I usually feel when I start training after a holiday period, before the start of the season. Before starting to play ball, one prepares the body. But over the next four weeks tennis will be replacing the physical training.

Q: During This long period off the circuit, and for the first time in more than a decade, you were seen leading some kind of normal life. Did you enjoy life outside the circuit?

RF: (Laughs) People saw me dressed as a farmer, visiting places, doing trekking. It [the recuperation] didn't let me train more than an hour a day, leaving much time to walk with my family. And I had free days, something to which I'm not at all accustomed. So I enjoyed touring Switzerland. And I didn't publish too many photos or videos of my practice sessions, and people thought that I did nothing but rest, when I was actually working hard to rehabilitate. I do not know why I did not publish more photos training, but I do not like to brag for people to think I'm some kind of warrior who does training. I divided my weeks between work, family and social life, something I could not do for like 10 or 15 years.

Q: Were people concerned? In that enjoying life you might not like to return to play?

RF: I understand that that people might think that, but I never ever thought about it, even for a moment. I just tried to take the positives from a situation that I did not choose. I love doing other things, but the truth is that I can not wait to return to the tour.

Q: It is helping you in that you may feel fresh mentally and physically refreshed?

RF: I think so. Moreover, that was the idea: that beyond the physical and tennis work, I could calm down and relax mentally. In tennis, the mental aspect is essential. If Stan Wawrinka could win three Grand Slams, it is because of his confidence. He has become a different player mentally. I want to go back with a fresh mind. And I feel it will be.

Q: Recent comments from Novak Djokovic show that after a while it can be exhausting to lead the tennis world and have to deal with that. Have you ever felt that tired of being number one and winning it all?

RF: We are all different people. There are many who speak about a great crisis, but Djokovic won in Toronto, reached the final of the US Open and the semifinals of Shanghai. What is surprising, is that I have not won anything since Roland Garros. But then the tournament that he really wanted to win was this: Roland Garros, his great and final objective. So I guess we'll see a different Djokovic on the courts. It is something that occurs naturally: after winning everything that you can win, it makes sense to go through a stage where you wonder what's next. Djokovic will find the answers. It's just a stage. You have to sit and think and define how you want to follow up. I went through a similar moment. I think all the players who won all four Grand Slam tournaments at some point feel the same. Because one begins to question one's motivation and desire to win every game, or traveling around the world with or without your family. And then one is forced to wonder whether it's worth it. It is interesting what is happening to Novak at this time, or Murray, who has the opportunity to reach the top of world ranking.

Q: What will happen to you in 2017?

RF: The next six months will be very interesting. I hope Rafa Nadal and I return stronger than ever. I do not know what position I'll get to in the rankings, so it will be fun to see the result of the draws. Beyond that, for Novak nothing will happen. He's a too good tennis player. He will not stop winning big tournaments.

Q: Speaking of rankings, do you have any fears about the prospect of returning [lower in the rankings]?

RF: On the contrary, I don't see it like that. Because if I am one hundred percent in my best shape, the other players will have a problem. Some of those who are high up may have the bad luck to play with me in quarters, and even in the second round. Bad luck! Normally that player would face me much later in the tournament. So the picture changes for everyone. The same happened with the return of Rafa: we all prayed not to be with him in the draw. So I guess no one will want to be with me into quarters or eighths. Because it is likely that I will be in 15th or 16th ATP place, that I have not occupied since 2002. I'm anxious to see what happens. Perhaps I can lose in the first round, but if I get a hundred percent, I know I can face the best and win tournaments again. It might take me a while, but I am more eager than fearing it.

Q: You have said that Nadal has more and better experience than you as returning after injury. And you share an agent with Del Potro, who also has had experience in that field. Would you have asked advice or suggestions about his own previous experience?

RF: Delpo's form is very impressive. My first experience was back in Monaco, after an operation. It was not very difficult. In the past I also had injuries that forced me to play with pain. So I know the subject, but at the same time, this time it is different. While it does not hurt me, it is seems it is going to be all right. But if the pain returns, bad news. And then you go into a cycle of negativity. But I'm doing everything I have to do to avoid it. And so I'm taking my time.

Q: I'd like to pursue the subject: what you think of the return of Del Potro this year?

RF: I repeat, very impressive. And it was very good. When I played against him earlier this year I noticed that something had changed in his game, he had changed his backhand, which he hit with slice effectively, cutting the ball more. It is interesting to see how he adapted his game after surgery. He is the type of player who is much better than his position in the ranking.

Q: Del Potro is motivated, like you. Where does that motivation without limit come from? Is it pure passion for tennis?

RF: Yes, I love this sport. Otherwise I would not go traveling around the world with my family. I have done a lot, but feel that I still have things to achieve. To me, I never lack motivation to train. What hurts is not to be in the Olympics, the US Open, in Basel, or the Masters Cup. That's the hard part. I missed it, but I was also sad and frustrated. I had to make that decision to stop for a few months. When that happened, I turned the page and I concentrated on my rehabilitation and my practice. My tennis life and my personal life have always been fairly balanced, and that is essential to meet this challenge and make the right decisions.

Q: What are your expectations and goals for next season?

RF: My dream is to keep winning Grand Slams and return to the top of the ranking, but when people ask me if I will continue playing in 2018, I tell them I hope so, because I first have to play five tournaments in a row without physical problems. Then we'll see what the state of my body is, how it responds. Because the important thing is to be in good shape for more than one tournament. If after three matches, you cannot give more, then you have to start asking questions. In April, I will be able to say if I'm looking good. The idea is that by December when I finish the preparation, is to be stronger than ever. The truth is that I will have had so much time to prepare for the season, I think I'll return much stronger than people think.

Q: For people, it is unimaginable to have tennis without you. Do you think sometimes of the idea of retiring?

RF: In recent weeks I have had an idea of how the tour is without me. It's nice to hear that fans say that tennis is not the same without me, but the fact is that tennis will survive without me and is generating new stars all the time. I think about the matches being played all the time. I love the sport, I need to follow it, be aware. But the time will come that there will not be Nadal or Federer. Of course it is going to be weird, because 20 years ago people were seeing me standing on the court. But tennis will survive just fine without me.

Q: How are you going to feel?

RF: The day that it will stop, I'll do some exhibitions, but it will no longer be the same. Because you need the thrill of competing, playing for points. So when I stop it's going to be difficult, because I know that it will be forever. How am I going to feel? It is a question that I can answer in a couple of years.

Q: In a couple of weeks, Del Potro's Argentina will play the final of the Davis Cup in Croatia. How will it end? Do you see a possibility for Argentina?

RF: I think it will be 50-50. The way Del Potro is playing, Argentina has a chance. But do not underestimate Croatia. Cilic has also shown great things lately. He's a threat. I really think the chances are 50-50.

 

bearbeitet 22. November 2016 von loewinger

[flanders]

loewinger schrieb vor 17 Minuten:

Bei Nadal hab' ich jetzt nicht den Einblick, gehe aber davon aus, dass er zu Saisonbeginn mit dabei ist. Weißt du mehr?

Aber Federer wird "definitv" am Start sein. Ich hab's schon mal gepostet, aber wurscht. Bitte lesen, echt ein feines Interview, wenn auch lang. Das hat ein User im MTF dankenswerterweise ins Englische übersetzt. Geht um seine eigene Ambitionen, Djokovics mentale Probleme nach dem French-Open-Titel, um DelPotro, usw... Ich hau's wieder in den Spoiler, weil's sehr lang ist:

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It's been a while since we heard from Roger Federer on the court, but that does not mean his history, one of the biggest made in tennis, has exhausted the last chapter. No, the former world number one is thoroughly preparing to overcome his back problems and knee, because he wants to show his best in 2017. And then?

"Tennis will survive just fine without me," the Swiss 35-year-old said smiling during an interview with us in Geneva. He admitted that "it will be weird," the day that neither he nor Rafael Nadal are in the circuit. Federer also left his forecast for the final of the Davis Cup, while analyzing the year of Juan Martin Del Potro: "Very impressive." So convinced is the seven-time Wimbledon champion that there is still much on his tennis racquet, he left a provocative phrase: "I will return much stronger than people think"

Q: How are your back and your knee?

RF: There are always ups and downs, but it is not worrying. It was because of my knee that I had to stop, but the fact is that during the last five weeks I feel a noticeable improvement. I still have 70 days to get ready. It's a lot of time. Usually the players do not have more than 30 days to recover. The coming weeks will be crucial, because I assume that soon it will be one hundred percent recovered. I'm really at peace.

Q: Have you returned to normal training?

RF:Almost. I went from the rehabilitation phase to some more specific exercises with Pierre Paganini, my fitness trainer, and try to combine it with tennis. It is a very interesting phase. It seems like I usually feel when I start training after a holiday period, before the start of the season. Before starting to play ball, one prepares the body. But over the next four weeks tennis will be replacing the physical training.

Q: During This long period off the circuit, and for the first time in more than a decade, you were seen leading some kind of normal life. Did you enjoy life outside the circuit?

RF: (Laughs) People saw me dressed as a farmer, visiting places, doing trekking. It [the recuperation] didn't let me train more than an hour a day, leaving much time to walk with my family. And I had free days, something to which I'm not at all accustomed. So I enjoyed touring Switzerland. And I didn't publish too many photos or videos of my practice sessions, and people thought that I did nothing but rest, when I was actually working hard to rehabilitate. I do not know why I did not publish more photos training, but I do not like to brag for people to think I'm some kind of warrior who does training. I divided my weeks between work, family and social life, something I could not do for like 10 or 15 years.

Q: Were people concerned? In that enjoying life you might not like to return to play?

RF: I understand that that people might think that, but I never ever thought about it, even for a moment. I just tried to take the positives from a situation that I did not choose. I love doing other things, but the truth is that I can not wait to return to the tour.

Q: It is helping you in that you may feel fresh mentally and physically refreshed?

RF: I think so. Moreover, that was the idea: that beyond the physical and tennis work, I could calm down and relax mentally. In tennis, the mental aspect is essential. If Stan Wawrinka could win three Grand Slams, it is because of his confidence. He has become a different player mentally. I want to go back with a fresh mind. And I feel it will be.

Q: Recent comments from Novak Djokovic show that after a while it can be exhausting to lead the tennis world and have to deal with that. Have you ever felt that tired of being number one and winning it all?

RF: We are all different people. There are many who speak about a great crisis, but Djokovic won in Toronto, reached the final of the US Open and the semifinals of Shanghai. What is surprising, is that I have not won anything since Roland Garros. But then the tournament that he really wanted to win was this: Roland Garros, his great and final objective. So I guess we'll see a different Djokovic on the courts. It is something that occurs naturally: after winning everything that you can win, it makes sense to go through a stage where you wonder what's next. Djokovic will find the answers. It's just a stage. You have to sit and think and define how you want to follow up. I went through a similar moment. I think all the players who won all four Grand Slam tournaments at some point feel the same. Because one begins to question one's motivation and desire to win every game, or traveling around the world with or without your family. And then one is forced to wonder whether it's worth it. It is interesting what is happening to Novak at this time, or Murray, who has the opportunity to reach the top of world ranking.

Q: What will happen to you in 2017?

RF: The next six months will be very interesting. I hope Rafa Nadal and I return stronger than ever. I do not know what position I'll get to in the rankings, so it will be fun to see the result of the draws. Beyond that, for Novak nothing will happen. He's a too good tennis player. He will not stop winning big tournaments.

Q: Speaking of rankings, do you have any fears about the prospect of returning [lower in the rankings]?

RF: On the contrary, I don't see it like that. Because if I am one hundred percent in my best shape, the other players will have a problem. Some of those who are high up may have the bad luck to play with me in quarters, and even in the second round. Bad luck! Normally that player would face me much later in the tournament. So the picture changes for everyone. The same happened with the return of Rafa: we all prayed not to be with him in the draw. So I guess no one will want to be with me into quarters or eighths. Because it is likely that I will be in 15th or 16th ATP place, that I have not occupied since 2002. I'm anxious to see what happens. Perhaps I can lose in the first round, but if I get a hundred percent, I know I can face the best and win tournaments again. It might take me a while, but I am more eager than fearing it.

Q: You have said that Nadal has more and better experience than you as returning after injury. And you share an agent with Del Potro, who also has had experience in that field. Would you have asked advice or suggestions about his own previous experience?

RF: Delpo's form is very impressive. My first experience was back in Monaco, after an operation. It was not very difficult. In the past I also had injuries that forced me to play with pain. So I know the subject, but at the same time, this time it is different. While it does not hurt me, it is seems it is going to be all right. But if the pain returns, bad news. And then you go into a cycle of negativity. But I'm doing everything I have to do to avoid it. And so I'm taking my time.

Q: I'd like to pursue the subject: what you think of the return of Del Potro this year?

RF: I repeat, very impressive. And it was very good. When I played against him earlier this year I noticed that something had changed in his game, he had changed his backhand, which he hit with slice effectively, cutting the ball more. It is interesting to see how he adapted his game after surgery. He is the type of player who is much better than his position in the ranking.

Q: Del Potro is motivated, like you. Where does that motivation without limit come from? Is it pure passion for tennis?

RF: Yes, I love this sport. Otherwise I would not go traveling around the world with my family. I have done a lot, but feel that I still have things to achieve. To me, I never lack motivation to train. What hurts is not to be in the Olympics, the US Open, in Basel, or the Masters Cup. That's the hard part. I missed it, but I was also sad and frustrated. I had to make that decision to stop for a few months. When that happened, I turned the page and I concentrated on my rehabilitation and my practice. My tennis life and my personal life have always been fairly balanced, and that is essential to meet this challenge and make the right decisions.

Q: What are your expectations and goals for next season?

RF: My dream is to keep winning Grand Slams and return to the top of the ranking, but when people ask me if I will continue playing in 2018, I tell them I hope so, because I first have to play five tournaments in a row without physical problems. Then we'll see what the state of my body is, how it responds. Because the important thing is to be in good shape for more than one tournament. If after three matches, you cannot give more, then you have to start asking questions. In April, I will be able to say if I'm looking good. The idea is that by December when I finish the preparation, is to be stronger than ever. The truth is that I will have had so much time to prepare for the season, I think I'll return much stronger than people think.

Q: For people, it is unimaginable to have tennis without you. Do you think sometimes of the idea of retiring?

RF: In recent weeks I have had an idea of how the tour is without me. It's nice to hear that fans say that tennis is not the same without me, but the fact is that tennis will survive without me and is generating new stars all the time. I think about the matches being played all the time. I love the sport, I need to follow it, be aware. But the time will come that there will not be Nadal or Federer. Of course it is going to be weird, because 20 years ago people were seeing me standing on the court. But tennis will survive just fine without me.

Q: How are you going to feel?

RF: The day that it will stop, I'll do some exhibitions, but it will no longer be the same. Because you need the thrill of competing, playing for points. So when I stop it's going to be difficult, because I know that it will be forever. How am I going to feel? It is a question that I can answer in a couple of years.

Q: In a couple of weeks, Del Potro's Argentina will play the final of the Davis Cup in Croatia. How will it end? Do you see a possibility for Argentina?

RF: I think it will be 50-50. The way Del Potro is playing, Argentina has a chance. But do not underestimate Croatia. Cilic has also shown great things lately. He's a threat. I really think the chances are 50-50.

 

Zu Nadal hab ich auch keine Infos. Bisserl von der Bildfläche verschwunden der Spanier.

Interview zieh ich mir gleich rein, danke!

[flanders]

Djokovic und der rote Baron gehen getrennte Wege.

Nach London hab ich mir genau das so gedacht. Djokovic hat ordentlich abgebaut im letzten halben Jahr und da ist eine Veränderung fast nur logisch.

[Xaverl Nick]

flanders schrieb vor 2 Stunden:

Djokovic und der rote Baron gehen getrennte Wege.

Nach London hab ich mir genau das so gedacht. Djokovic hat ordentlich abgebaut im letzten halben Jahr und da ist eine Veränderung fast nur logisch.

Im Endeffekt hat Boris ihn zum French Open Gewinner gemacht. Also das was fehlte könnte er mit Becker komplettieren. Eigentlich eh absurd ausgerechnet den Never-Sand-Turnier-Gewinner zum Trainer zu machen, wenn nur noch die French Open fehlen. Aber es ist gelungen. Boris hat ihm sogar noch einen recht anständigen Volley gelernt, das war ja viele Jahre eine der wenigen Schwächen (neben dem Überkopf Smash)

Für Becker selbst tut es mir leid, ich finde dem hat der Job echt gut getan. Der war die Jahre zuvor ja eigentlich nur noch eine Karikatur, ist aber echt vernünftig in diese Aufgabe gewachsen und hat größtenteils sogar äußerst seriös gewirkt. Fürchte jetzt kommt wieder der Rückfall zur Witzfigur.