NHL-Transferzeit

[Bam_Margera]

NHL-Streik wird kommen

Jochen Hecht sieht kaum eine Chance, dass der drohende Arbeitskampf in der NHL noch verhindert werden kann.

"Er wird zu 99 Prozent kommen", sagte Hecht, der bei den Buffalo Sabres einen Vertrag bis 2005 besitzt, gegenüber der Fachzeitung "Eishockey News".

"Sollten Liga und Spielergewerkschaft im Januar noch immer genauso weit auseinander sein wie jetzt, dann wird wohl die gesamte Saison ausfallen", so Hecht, der sich bei einem Streik dem DEL-Klub Adler Mannheim anschließen wird.

Quelle: Sport1.at

Tja eigentlich nichts Neues, aber doch eine weitere Bestätigung...

[Bam_Margera]

Brain Rolson wird wahrscheinlich zu den Wild wechseln.

Janne Niinimaa bleibt für weitere drei Jahre bei den Islanders

Mattias Timander unterschreibt bei den Flyers

Die Wild können ihre wichtigen Spieler Willie Mitchell und Andrew Brunette halten.

Mike Comrie bleibt in Phoenix

[quaiz]

Thomas Vanek zu Buffalo.

Er hat einen 3 Jahresvertrag bekommen.

[Bam_Margera]

VAnek Verdient 1,24 Mio. Dollar pro Jahr, was nur knapp an der Obergrenze für einen Rookievertrag steht.

[XSCHLAMEAL]

Schade, dass diese Saison so viele Probleme vor sich hat (lockout); gerade wo 6 Österreicher unter Vertrag bei NHL Teams stehen

Hoffentlich wiederholt sich nicht das, was es vor 10 Jahren gegeben hat, da dauerte der "Streik" ~100 Tage afaik

[AustroLeaf]

Hoffentlich wiederholt sich nicht das, was es vor 10 Jahren gegeben hat, da dauerte der "Streik" ~100 Tage afaik

Das wär ja direkt noch mild, da würde im Jänner ja schon wieder gespielt werden. Nach der derzeitigen Situation ist sogar eine ganze Saison zu befürchten.

[XSCHLAMEAL]

diese Option wird wohl immer wahrscheinlicher

Sept. 8, 2004

TORONTO - Bill Daly, NHL Executive Vice President and Chief Legal Officer, today released the following statement:

"We are extremely disappointed with what teh Union presented to us today. Not only did the Union's proposal fail to move the process toward a resolution but, in fact, represented a step backwards in the process.

"As we predicted, two weeks ago in Ottawa, the Union has simply repackaged its original unacceptable and ineffective proposal from 15 months ago -- and even watered it down. Even under the Union's modeling and projections, which we do not agree with or accept, more than half of our Clubs would still lose money and nearly a third of the Clubs would still lose in excess of $10 million each season.

"Nothing more clearly demonstrates the Union's unwillingness to acknowledge or meaningfully address this League's problems than this recycled proposal.

"No further meetings are scheduled at this time."

Sieht nicht gut aus

[AustroLeaf]

World Cup genießen, so gut es geht, die Pause danach könnte sehr lang werden.

[AustroLeaf]

Für heute, 14:30 Ortszeit, hat Gary Bettman eine Pressekonferenz einberaumt. Nachdem um Mitternacht das CBA offiziell ausläuft, wird erwartet, daß er das Verschieben der Trainingslager auf unbestimmte Zeit sowie den Beginn des Lockout/Strike (Wortwahl je nachdem, welcher Seite man zuspricht) bekanntgibt.

[compadre]

mah das ist besch*****

[AustroLeaf]

Es ist soweit, ganz offiziell. Ich fand den Artikel ganz interessant und informativ - über den zur Zeit herrschenden Ton zwischen den Streitparteien darf man durchaus schockiert sein - und stelle ihn deswegen in voller Länge hier rein.

Wut, Traurigkeit, Desillusion meinerseits.

Quelle: Ronald Blum, Associated Press

Via foxsports.com

The National Hockey League will lock out its players Thursday, threatening to keep the sport off the ice for the entire 2004-05 season.

The long-expected decision was approved unanimously Wednesday by NHL owners, who are demanding cost certainty, which players say would be tantamount to a salary cap.

Commissioner Gary Bettman repeatedly belittled the union's bargaining position during a news conference to announce the lockout, talked about the possibility the confrontation would extend into the 2005-06 season and said the stoppage makes it less likely the NHL will participate in the 2006 Olympics.

He made clear that this entire season could be sacrificed and said play could not extend into July.

"If there's enough time to play some games, we'll do it," he said. "If not, we won't."

The sides have not met since a bargaining session last Thursday ended with the parties far apart, and there is almost no chance the season will start as scheduled on Oct. 13. Bettman told teams to release their arenas for other events for the next 30 days.

"Unfortunately, the league has rejected all opportunities for compromise, while stubbornly insisting that Gary Bettman has the single solution to every problem - a salary cap," union head Bob Goodenow said. "An honest partnership can never be achieved under the leagues 'my-way-or-the-highway' approach. ... Gary and the owners have chosen, through a lockout, to try to force players to accept a system they know players would never agree to."

Bettman said the league's proposals would lower the average player salary from $1.8 million to $1.3 million and said past losses gave owners no other choice. He also made clear that declaring an impasse under U.S. labor law and imposing new work rules unilaterally was an option, but said it has not yet been considered.

"I think it's probably fair to say we're at an impasse right now," he said.

Bettman said approximately 100 employees from the NHL's central staff of about 225 will be terminated to save money, most on Sept. 20.

The stoppage is the first for a North American major league since the 1997-98 NBA lockout canceled 464 games, cutting each club's regular-season schedule from 82 games to 50.

It is the third stoppage for the NHL following a 10-day strike in 1992 that caused the postponement of 30 games and a 103-day lockout in 1994-95 that eliminated 468 games, cutting each team's regular-season schedule from 84 games to 48. That lockout ended on Jan. 11, five days before the deadline set by Bettman to scuttle the season.

Owners have contributed $300 million to a league fund to help get them through a lockout, and the union has retained licensing money to help its members. Bettman said about 20 teams would lose less money during a lockout than they would if play continued.

"The present system doesn't work for us," said Jim Rutherford, the president and general manager of the Carolina Hurricanes. "We need a new system. We're all frustrated by it."

Players vow to resist a salary cap and, with the positions entrenched, a long stoppage is likely, one that could wipe out the Stanley Cup final for the first time since 1919, when the series between Montreal and Seattle was stopped after five games due a Spanish influenza epidemic.

"It is a sad day for all of us," Montreal owner George Gillett said. "We're trying to do this to make sure there is competitive balance for the Montreal Canadiens."

The 30 teams - 24 in the United States and six in Canada - had been set to start opening training camps on Thursday, the day after the expiration of the current labor contract. The deal was first agreed to in 1995 and extended two years later through Sept. 15, 2004. Bettman termed the extension "a mistake, in hindsight."

Some players are expected to sign with European leagues, and others could join a six-team, four-on-four circuit called the Original Stars Hockey League, which is set to start play Friday in Barrie, Ontario. Others could go to a revived World Hockey Association, which plans to open Oct. 29 with eight teams playing 76 games apiece.

Baseball has had eight work stoppages, the last running for 7 1/2 months in 1994-95. It caused the cancellation of 921 regular-season games over two years and wiped out the World Series for the first time since 1904. While the NFL has had four strikes, including two during the regular season, the sport has enjoyed labor peace since 1987.

NHL management claims it needs changes in the labor contract because teams are losing money, $273 million in 2002-03 and $224 million last season, according to the league.

The NHL's average salary has risen from $733,000 at the time of the last lockout to $1,830,126 last season, according to the NHL Players' Association. While NHL revenue rose from $732 million in 1993-94 to $1.996 billion in 2002-3, the league says that player costs have increased from 57 percent of revenue to 75 percent over that period, figures the union disputes.

Unlike the other major sports, the NHL's revenue from broadcasting is relatively small, $449 million from national and local contracts and new media in 2002-03, according to the league.

[Bam_Margera]

Mal was anderes ausser lockout.

Ich hab heute im Kansas City Star gelesen, dass irgendein Tzp die anaheim Mighty Ducks kaufen will um in Kansas City ein Hockez-Team anzusiedeln...

[AustroLeaf]

Mal was anderes ausser lockout.

Ich hab heute im Kansas City Star gelesen, dass irgendein Tzp die anaheim Mighty Ducks kaufen will um in Kansas City ein Hockez-Team anzusiedeln...

Da bin ich mal gespannt... Kansas City versucht seit vielen Jahren, ein Team zu bekommen, und jedes Mal gehen sie leer aus.

Interessant wäre, ob Disney irgendwelche "Müdigkeitserscheinungen" oder Verkaufsabsichten geäußert hat; ansonsten kann ich es mir eigentlich nicht vorstellen.

edit: Andere local news? Wie ist die Stimmung in den USA bzgl. der Probleme in der NHL? Ähnlich wie in Kanada (also deutlich gegen die Spieler)?

bearbeitet 17. September 2004 von AustroLeaf

[Bam_Margera]

Also ich hab noch fast keine Hockey-Fans in Kansas gefunden.... aber die mit denen ich geredet habem sind eben gegen die Spieler, weil die ja ordentlich absahenen und die Fans dafuer dann draufzahlen muessen...

[compadre]

Also ich hab noch fast keine Hockey-Fans in Kansas gefunden.... aber die mit denen ich geredet habem sind eben gegen die Spieler, weil die ja ordentlich absahenen und die Fans dafuer dann draufzahlen muessen...

und die football fans sind traurig weil die chiefs gegen die broncos verloren haben

ich rechne immer mehr damit dass die heurige saison ganz ausfallen wird