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[aXXit]

Haaland im BVB-Trikot ist ja überhaupt nicht anzuschauen

[Bayernbulle]

aXXit schrieb vor 4 Minuten:

Haaland im BVB-Trikot ist ja überhaupt nicht anzuschauen

Habe ich mir auch gedacht und gleich wieder weg geklickt

[mrbonheur]

Soviel dazu, dass er ja so am Boden geblieben ist, weil sein Vater so toll ist 

[Scratcherz]

„A WhatsApp charm offensive from players, a lucrative offer from Puma and watching him 28 times live – how Dortmund won the race for Haaland“

https://theathletic.com/1496704/2020/01/03/a-whatsapp-charm-offensive-from-players-a-lucrative-offer-from-puma-and-watching-him-28-times-live-how-dortmund-won-the-race-for-haaland/

hat jemand Zugriff auf den ganzen Artikel?

[aXXit]

28x live beobachtet? Wo waren die überall?  

[Bayernbulle]

aXXit schrieb vor 2 Minuten:

28x live beobachtet? Wo waren die überall?  

So viel hat er ja gar nicht gespielt oder zählen Trainingsspielchen auch 

[mrbonheur]

Ist sowieso immer das Gleiche. Wenn dann jemand geholt wird, war es weil XY sich ja so bemüht hat, etc. 

Im Endeffekt ist er dort, weil er CL spielt, nicht viel Konkurrenz hat, viel Geld bekommt und bei einem weiteren Wechsel nochmals viel Geld bekommt, und man bei Dortmund ja auch den Dembélé und Aubameyang machen kann. 

Aber er wird wahrscheinlich dort gut funktionieren. Die DBL ist ja auch eine Nudelliga und in der CL wird es eh wahrscheinlich sofort zu Ende sein 

[Bourbon]

Scratcherz schrieb vor 9 Minuten:

„A WhatsApp charm offensive from players, a lucrative offer from Puma and watching him 28 times live – how Dortmund won the race for Haaland“

https://theathletic.com/1496704/2020/01/03/a-whatsapp-charm-offensive-from-players-a-lucrative-offer-from-puma-and-watching-him-28-times-live-how-dortmund-won-the-race-for-haaland/

hat jemand Zugriff auf den ganzen Artikel?

@syndicate mocht des

 

Im BVB Forum wurde der Artikel auch verlinkt und da wurde ein Zitat herauskopiert, ziemlich interessant. 

Zitat

For the first time since the acrimonious departure of Mario Gotze to Bayern in 2013, Dortmund also had to insert a release clause in one of their player’s contracts. The fee is substantially higher than the £50 million figure quoted in the English press, however, and only becomes active towards the latter stages of Haaland’s four-and-a-half-year contract.

In addition, The Athletic understands that Dortmund’s outlay for commissions for Raiola and Haaland Snr are lower than the €15 million and €10 million respectively that Gazetta dello Sport reported as they include prior commitments by Salzburg.

 

[chrischinger86]

Zulj ist bei Hoffenheim auch endgültig "fertig"

Zitat

Robert Zulj (27), Joshua Brenet (25) und Philipp Ochs (22), die in dieser Saison allesamt noch ohne Bundesliga-Einsatz sind, stehen bei der TSG Hoffenheim vor dem Absprung. Das Trio reiste am Freitag nicht mit in die spanische Küstenstadt an der Costa del Sol. "Alle drei können mit der sportlichen Situation natürlich nicht zufrieden sein und streben eine Veränderung an", sagte Sportchef Alexander Rosen.

https://www.kicker.de/1-bundesliga/transfermarkt

[syndicate]

Bourbon schrieb vor 11 Minuten:

@syndicate mocht des

Sowas würde ich nie tun  

Spoiler

Wirklich nicht  

Spoiler

Niemals 

Spoiler

Three days before Erling Haaland’s secret medical on Sunday, December 29, Borussia Dortmund were still unsure whether they had won the race for this winter’s most coveted player. This, like so many modern transfers, had been a move with a long backstory.

It started in August 2016, at the Nordic Under-17 Football Championship. “We didn’t go there to specifically to watch Erling Haaland but he quickly became of interest to us,” BVB chief scout Markus Pilawa tells The Athletic.

The 16-year-old was playing as a winger on either flank at the time. Following his first few minutes in the first team as a budding professional at Molde, Dortmund upgraded their scouting frequency from “occasional” to “permanent”.

“We watched every single game of his either in person or on video,” Pilawa says. “There was a debate whether it made sense to bring him into the club for the academy but he chose to go to Red Bull Salzburg in 2018. It made evaluating him regularly easier for us.”

Dortmund saw Haaland 28 times in the flesh. As their interest grew over the course of 2019, former Borussia legend Matthias Sammer conducted his own scouting trips. The 52-year-old, who now works as an external adviser to the board, went to see Haaland play in the league a few times and also made some incognito visits to Salzburg’s state-of-the-art training ground in Taxham on the western outskirts of the city, to gauge the forward’s application in practice sessions.

Pilawa said: “The key thing you need to work out for a young player at that stage is adaptability from one league to another. There’s never a guarantee that someone scoring in Austria will continue at the same rate in the Bundesliga and deal with the higher tempo and intensity, but there are factors that determine the probabilities of success. We look at the physical development and his personality. How does he deal with setbacks and mistakes? What’s his body language? Later, when things become more concrete, you try to scout a player’s character off the pitch as well, looking at the way he conducts himself in meetings and so on.”

Things became concrete quite rapidly. Pilawa compiles a shortlist of players deemed capable of playing for Dortmund in every position months in advance of every transfer window and, for all of 2019, Haaland was on it. His games in the Champions League group stage were seen as “very useful” by the coaching department as they helped the club better understand the extent of his development. But his outings on the international stage also presented a very real danger of other sides becoming more convinced of his ability. Dortmund found themselves in competition with some of of the biggest clubs in Europe for his signature. His €20 million release clause was universally seen as an absolute bargain.

When it came down to it in early December, their pitch to Haaland was simple: out of all the serious contenders for his services, they needed him most. RB Leipzig were poised to sign the Norwegian thanks to their intrinsic corporate ties with Red Bull Salzburg and the influence of Ralf Rangnick (head of international relations and scouting for the Red Bull football clubs), who had been key in bringing the teenager to Austria from Molde in 2018. But Leipzig already have Timo Werner (18 league goals) and a host of supporting strikers on their books while Manchester United have built their attack around Marcus Rashford. Juventus employ Cristiano Ronaldo and Gonzalo Higuain.

Dortmund, by contrast, have been crying out for a dominant centre-forward since the departure of Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang in January 2018. The team’s finely-crafted attacking game under Lucien Favre would be vastly improved by a physical presence in the box, as Spaniard Paco Alcacer has proved too slight and injury-prone to lead the line effectively. Dortmund, fourth in the Bundesliga at the halfway stage, were thus in a position to offer Haaland plenty of game time in front of their fanatical 81,000 crowd in a side brimming with creative potential on the flanks (Jadon Sancho, Thorgan Hazard) and in the centre (Marco Reus, Julian Brandt) — the perfect foil for any target man.

Haaland’s stated ambition is to one day play in the Premier League but the benefits of advancing his career at Dortmund, European football’s most successful hot-house over the last few years, were clear. BVB have successfully fostered and turbo-charged the prospects of players such as Aubameyang, Sancho, Ousmane Dembele (Barcelona), Christian Pulisic (Chelsea) and Ilkay Gundogan (Manchester City). Haaland, both parties hope, will be the next “high potential” player to emerge as one of the game’s superstars in black and yellow.

Sources in Norway indicate that the player, described to The Athletic as “a very normal boy who is serious about football and learning to get better”, was won over in a series of meetings with Dortmund CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke and sporting director Michael Zorc. They managed to successfully convey the emotional appeal of playing at Signal Iduna Park, as well as the case for making a gradual step-up from the Austrian to the German Bundesliga.

Haaland and his father Alf-Inge were also impressed by the club’s strong structures and wealth of sporting expertise at board level, a marked difference to the situation at Manchester United, where the player could have earned more money but faced a more uncertain future in light of the club’s recent stagnation. “Ole Gunnar Solskjaer flying out to Salzburg to meet with the player was all well and good but Dortmund had kept in close touch over many months and drawn up very concrete plans for his career development,” a well-placed source said. “And unlike United, they had a strong track-record of helping young players get to the next level at a club that has been a regular in the Champions League.”

Dortmund nevertheless felt it necessary to pull all possible levers. Danish international Thomas Delaney coordinated a charm offensive, with many BVB players sending heartfelt WhatsApp messages urging him to join. The club also called on the support of Bjorn Gulden, the Norwegian CEO of Puma. The German company are Borussia Dortmund’s shirt sponsors and a minority shareholder. Gulden, a former footballer who played for Haaland’s first club, Bryne, as well as 1. FC Nurnberg in the German second division in the mid-80s, fought hard to convince his fellow countryman to join Favre’s side. Haaland, a Nike player, was made a lucrative offer to switch to Puma, The Athletic has been told. The forward might well decide to stay with his existing sponsor but his agent Mino Raiola will be able to leverage Puma’s interest to negotiate better terms for an extension of the deal with Nike.

The Raiola-Dortmund connection was another factor at play. There are plenty of clubs who bristle at the thought of doing deals with the Monaco-based agent but Dortmund are an exception. Ever since the Germans managed to secure the €30 million signing of Raiola’s client Henrikh Mkhitaryan from Shakhtar Donetsk in face of much competition — Liverpool were among the contenders at the time — they have enjoyed a good working relationship. The Italian-born Dutchman famously rearranged the seating in the club boardroom in an angry fit over Dortmund’s refusal to sell the Armenia playmaker for less than £30 million three years later but his volatility didn’t deter Borussia.

In 2017, they signed another of his players, Immanuel Pherai, from AZ Alkmaar under-17s. The club’s willingness to take the rough with the smooth and to see past occasional histrionics when it comes to doing business with Raiola was one of the reasons they pulled off this remarkable coup.

But it was never a foregone conclusion. Financially, Dortmund had to stretch. The club don’t comment on details of the contractual arrangement but sources have told The Athletic that Borussia came close to matching United’s slightly better offer, which stood at €10 million per year. For the first time since the acrimonious departure of Mario Gotze to Bayern in 2013, Dortmund also had to insert a release clause in one of their player’s contracts. The fee is substantially higher than the £50 million figure quoted in the English press, however, and only becomes active towards the latter stages of Haaland’s four-and-a-half-year contract.

In addition, The Athletic understands that Dortmund’s outlay for commissions for Raiola and Haaland Snr are lower than the €15 million and €10 million respectively that Gazetta dello Sport reported as they include prior commitments by Salzburg.

Even if a portion of the eventual transfer fee does indeed go back to Haaland and his advisers, as United told local reporters, Dortmund will — at worst — employ the services of one of the hottest striking prospects for free over the next few years once they sell him on. Not a bad piece of business.

 

 

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[deathwing]

chrischinger86 schrieb vor 2 Stunden:

 

Johnny the legend, den werden wir nie vergessen unsere katalanische Tormaschine!!

Und Alar auf Platz 2, hab ich da akut was verschlafen? Also bevor den Rapidfans jetzt einer abgeht vor Freude: Alar hat bei denen NIE wirklich funktioniert und hat den Großteil seiner Tore wo anders erzielt!!

Johnny is wenigstens 100% RBS!!

[Bourbon]

 

 

 

 

 

[greez]

[Phalanx]

Bravo Erling, ein Opel!

[mmh1]

chrischinger86 schrieb vor 4 Stunden:

 

Was da für Namen dabei sind!?  Die meisten nur in der Liste, weil sie wohl fast 10 Jahre durchgehend in der Liga waren....

10 Spieler / 2 Salzburger und die einzigen Nicht-österreicher!