Arsenal Football Club

[Jay Gooner]

Holding hat seinen Vertrag der ursprünglich bis 2023 lief nochmal verlängert. Freut mich, ich find ihn sehr solide und er wird immer besser je mehr er spielt. Nur Gehalt ist leider nicht bekannt aber schätze mal was um die 80k

Mit Gabriel, Mari, Holding, Chambers (sofern er zur Form vor der Verletzung zurückfindet) und in Zukunft hoffentlich Saliba schaut unser CB stamm schonmal sehr gut aus für die nächsten 3 Jahre find ich

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[Jay Gooner]

Oida, Losglück hamma heuer im Cup wieder echt keins. Als nächstes geht's nach Southampton und falls wirs da drüber schaffen, spielma gegen Wolves. Chelsea, Man City und Spurs brunzen sich weiter durch. Wobei Spurs dann in der 5. wohl gegen Everton ran müssen

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[Jay Gooner]

Guter Athletic Kommentar mit dem Titel "Player recruitment teams are only as good as managers make them look" wo auch Pepe erwähnt wird:

Spoiler

Flop after flop after flop.

He had to go.

It was the summer of 2016. Aston Villa had endured the worst campaign in their history and suffered relegation from the Premier League with a pitiful 17 points — 22 short of survival.

By common consent, Villa’s major problem was a disastrous transfer window 12 months earlier. They’d sold Christian Benteke, their top goalscorer in each of the previous three seasons, and Fabian Delph, their captain, for a combined £40 million, and replaced them with a series of flops. Therefore, much-maligned head of recruitment Paddy Riley was on his way, with few Villa supporters sorry to learn of his departure.

Four and a half years on, though, it’s worth looking at those ‘flops’ Riley signed.

Central midfielder Idrissa Gueye started seven of the 11 games for Paris Saint-Germain as they got to the Champions League final last season; Jordan Amavi has been a regular at left-back for Marseille, who qualified for this season’s Champions League as Ligue 1 runners-up; Jordan Veretout is enjoying a fine season at Roma, scoring seven league goals so far this season; while Adama Traore has become one of the Premier League’s most exciting players with Wolverhampton Wanderers and Jordan Ayew has performed well up front for Crystal Palace.

And suddenly, you realise Riley’s “disastrous signings” were not actually disastrous signings. They were signings who performed disastrously for Villa, of course, but the fundamental problem was surely not the recruitment itself. Riley had replaced two key players with five talented youngsters who would become, by the standards of a club fighting relegation, genuine stars.

The problem was the management. Tim Sherwood had performed well as caretaker boss the previous season, taking over in the February and steering Villa, who were in the bottom three when he was appointed, to survival and into the FA Cup final. As their long-term manager, though, he was a questionable choice, and Sherwood didn’t know what to do with Riley’s signings.

And this is the reality of a club’s recruitment department — their successes and failures are not judged according to their own work, but that of the club’s manager.

At the other end of the spectrum from Villa, take Liverpool’s successes in recent years, which are often held up as a great example of a transfer committee making a succession of great decisions.

Mohamed Salah and Sadio Mane were highly rated, but few expected them to be winning the Premier League’s Golden Boot. Andy Robertson and Georginio Wijnaldum had just been relegated with Hull City and Newcastle United — they were superb pickups by Liverpool’s transfer team. Alisson and Virgil van Dijk were top-class players who slotted in immediately. More great work.

But Liverpool also have a genuinely great manager who consistently improves individuals. This is the most important part of Liverpool’s signings looking good. It doesn’t actually matter, to Jurgen Klopp, whether they’re new signings or not. He did the same with Trent Alexander-Arnold, plucked from Liverpool’s youth ranks and Jordan Henderson, a survivor of previous regimes (and once considered a flop to be lumped in with Stewart Downing, Charlie Adam and Andy Carroll).

It’s what Klopp did at Borussia Dortmund, taking decent players such as Marcel Schmelzer, Kevin Grosskreutz and Jakub Błaszczykowski and turning them into title winners. Had they been signed immediately before Dortmund’s first title-winning campaign, they would have been hailed as genius signings. The man actually hailed as a genius signing at the time, Shinji Kagawa, looked sensational for Dortmund under Klopp but has never replicated that form since.

Whatever scouting networks, data analysts or negotiation skills Liverpool’s recruitment department have are less important than the fact they are handing these signings over to a manager who makes players better. Diogo Jota has done extremely well for Liverpool since his summer move from Wolves, but if you took any other wide player from a midtable club — Raphinha of Leeds United, Crystal Palace’s Wilfried Zaha,  Newcastle United’s Allan Saint-Maximin or even Nicolas Pepe of Arsenal — and plugged them into the champions’ team they’d probably look great too.

Pepe is a perfect example of a footballer who has underperformed at his new club and is considered a disastrous signing. So disastrous in fact, that after his first season Arsenal supposedly launched an internal investigation into precisely how they ended up paying Lille so much money for him.

This investigation focused on errors in the recruitment process. Whether Pepe was ever worth £72 million is debatable but he’d enjoyed a superb 2018-19 campaign as Lille finished as Ligue 1 runners-up, including absolutely running the show throughout a 5-1 thrashing of champions PSG in April 2019. It’s worth noting that his replacement (of sorts), Victor Osimhen, signed for Napoli this summer a similar fee. That, it seems, is roughly the going rate.

Arsenal’s investigation would be much better off considering that Pepe was going into a shambolic side performing terribly under Unai Emery. It should show that almost every other player was underperforming, that Pepe was handed his full debut in a game where Emery used a midfield diamond against Liverpool’s rampaging full-backs at Anfield, which caused them problems down the flanks. Arsenal’s system constantly changed and Pepe’s team-mates constantly changed.

Pepe has underperformed, but the insistence on immediately attributing this error to Arsenal’s recruitment department seems to ignore several important steps along the way.

In recent years, we’ve witnessed the rise of the big-name sporting director, those given credit for a club’s successful recruitment — to the extent they themselves are often scouted and poached by rival clubs.

It’s somewhat rare, though, for a sporting director to be successful at two major clubs.

Take the near-legendary Monchi, who spent 17 years working wonders at Sevilla, and was widely given great credit for their consistent Europa League success before leaving for Roma in 2017.

Monchi spent less than two years in the Italian capital, where he received criticism for almost everything, from selling Salah too cheaply to wasting money on the likes of Javier Pastore and Steven N’Zonzi. He promptly returned to Sevilla, like an underperforming striker who can’t adjust to playing in a different league and therefore quickly retreats to familiar surroundings; Monchi is now not necessarily a ‘guru’ but actually the Iago Aspas of sporting directors.

Sven Mislintat earned a similar status at Dortmund before finding life at Arsenal more difficult and departing after just 14 months amid internal power struggles, but the main tentpole of his approach was simply signing ex-Dortmund players.

Most strikingly, Steve Walsh received rave reviews after finding Jamie Vardy, N’Golo Kante and Riyad Mahrez for Leicester City. He then joined Everton on the back of that group’s unlikely 2015-16 title success and seemingly oversaw the recruitment of players including Morgan Schneiderlin, Davy Klaassen, Sandro and Nikola Vlasic as the Merseyside club bombed dramatically.

It’s worth remembering Kante, arguably the most successful signing the Premier League has witnessed in the last decade, had actually been Walsh’s back-up option for a central midfield role at Leicester in 2015. His first choice? Nantes’ Veretout, who instead chose Villa and became one of the ‘flops’ of Riley’s apparently disastrous regime.

We essentially have no idea whether Walsh is as good as Claudio Ranieri’s Leicester made him look, as bad as Ronald Koeman’s Everton made him look, or somewhere in-between.

There is evidently great skill in talent-spotting, and tremendous expertise is required to manage a huge network of scouts, but unless a sporting director has performed impressively at a good number of clubs, it’s somewhat difficult to say, with any real certainty, that they are excellent at their job.

It would be a bit like enjoying a fantastic dinner at a good restaurant (those were the days) and exclaiming, “compliments to the produce buyer!”

 

 

[Jay Gooner]

dialsquare schrieb am 11.1.2021 um 00:16 :

This

Ich befürchtete schon nach dem harten Foul wars das für längere Zeit, hoffentlich fällt er nicht so lange aus, ein unglaublich talentierter wichtiger Bursch

Leichte Entwarnung zum Glück, er fällt gegen Palace aus aber soll in ein paar Tagen wieder voll mittrainieren können! 

[dialsquare]

Echt unfassbar, dass das schon wieder 8 Jahre her ist, die Zeit vergeht

 

 

 

[Jay Gooner]

dialsquare schrieb vor 8 Stunden:

Echt unfassbar, dass das schon wieder 8 Jahre her ist, die Zeit vergeht

 

  Inhalt unsichtbar machen

 

 

 

 

gemsehaut

[Manu_Graz]

Mit Tierney und Mari fehlen heute 2 der besten. David Luiz und AMN rücken stattdessen in die Startelf. Ceballos spielt auch. Partey auf der Bank 

Hoffe auf einen Sieg, Palace kann ich überhaupt nicht leiden und mit einem Sieg wären wir zumindest kurzzeitig punktegleich mit "Geheimfavorit" Chelsea.

[fenix]

War wohl nix. Laut Statistik hatte Palace auch mehr Chancen?

[Jay Gooner]

fenix schrieb vor einer Stunde:

War wohl nix. Laut Statistik hatte Palace auch mehr Chancen?

Laut welcher? 

Nein mehr Chancen sicher nicht und insgesamt auch nicht die besseren. Einen weltklasse save musste Leno allerdings machen, also mit pech hätten wir das schon verlieren können. 

War aber insgesamt ein schlechtes Spiel geprägt von Fehlpässen und schlechter Chancenverwertung auf beiden Seiten. Hast gar nix verpasst

Palace bleibt für uns die unknackbare Nuss

Edit: und einmal hat Palace die Latte getroffen, fällt mir ein. Ansonsten eher spektakulär versemmelt bzw. alibishots 

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[fenix]

Jay Gooner schrieb vor 56 Minuten:

Laut welcher? 

Nein mehr Chancen sicher nicht und insgesamt auch nicht die besseren. Einen weltklasse save musste Leno allerdings machen, also mit pech hätten wir das schon verlieren können. 

War aber insgesamt ein schlechtes Spiel geprägt von Fehlpässen und schlechter Chancenverwertung auf beiden Seiten. Hast gar nix verpasst

Palace bleibt für uns die unknackbare Nuss

Edit: und einmal hat Palace die Latte getroffen, fällt mir ein. Ansonsten eher spektakulär versemmelt bzw. alibishots 

Fotmob.

Solche Chancen wie die beiden genannten, waren bei den offiziellen vom Klub von uns nicht dabei? Also schon bessere Chancen von Palace?

[Jay Gooner]

fenix schrieb vor 3 Stunden:

Fotmob.

Solche Chancen wie die beiden genannten, waren bei den offiziellen vom Klub von uns nicht dabei? Also schon bessere Chancen von Palace?

jein, kommt immer drauf an was man unter besserer chance versteht

Highlights: https://highlightsfootball.net/video/arsenal-vs-crystal-palace-highlights-4/

wobei die eine Großchance von Lacazette, da hab ich erst jetzt beim nochmal Anschaun gecheckt dass das Abseits von AMN war, war bis dahin für mich die beste Chance des Spiels

Arsenal jedenfalls deutlich mehr im gegnerischen Drittel als der Gegner, also mehr gefährliche Situationen erzeugt

meinen eindruck untermauert da auch die Heatmap: 

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1485338/Live/England-Premier-League-2020-2021-Arsenal-Crystal-Palace

 

Beeindruckend war für mich übrigens die Defensivleistung von Xhaka (nicht nur am Papier, aber die Stats belegen das auch). Vielleicht könnt aus dem doch noch ein gscheiter DMF werden, hinter/neben Partey  Langsam ist er halt nach wie vor.

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[Danilo Kunhar]

Das Fiasko ist wohl bald vorbei:

Mesut Ozil transfer: Arsenal midfielder finalising contract termination ahead of Fenerbahce move

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12181904/mesut-ozil-transfer-arsenal-midfielder-finalising-contract-termination-ahead-of-fenerbahce-move

[fenix]

Für beide Seiten das beste, wenn das Theater vorbei ist.

[soccerfreak89]

Da bin ich auch richtig erleichtert, wann das Theater endlich ein Ende findet.

[Jay Gooner]

Ciao Özil, schade dass es so enden musste, wegen einer unfähigen Vereinsführung und zwei Trainern die sich nicht gegens Management stellen getraut haben.

Danke für all die schönen Tore und Assists.

https://arseblog.com/2021/01/a-career-of-two-halves-mesut-ozil-set-for-fenerbahce-move/

Der Verein hat sich jetzt immerhin die 7 Mille einsparen können. Hoffe das wird das Ganze am Ende wert sein.

 

 

10:38 eins der schönsten Solo-Goals die ich in meinem ganzen Leben gesehen hab  

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